Cargo Haulers

[Astoroth]

I think I already said this in the relevant topic, but I would Love to see a fictional variant of the Stoof all kitted out for bush cargo... perhaps with skis, too? The thing would be bl**** brilliant hauling cargo in inclement weather, although its shortfield charactaristics might leave something to be desired...

I was just thinking the same thing the other day. The C1A Trader already has a large door in the side, If we could get a model version with the interior seats removed so the cargo area would be available, it would be fantastic. A few boxes in the hold would be great, but even just the seats removed would do....Pretty Please, Milton?

[modelr]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...fo&FileID=8433

It also works on the cargo variants with floats.... either amphibian or straight floater

Thanks so much for the link, Willy, but the file seems to be missing. (It's in the old library, which is missing some.) Turns out I do have the file, tho, in my massive, as yet, uninstalled texture folder. If you no longer have the original file you uploaded, I can send it to you to replace in the library.

[nigel richards]

I had to go back to FS2002 to get these ...After the initial Dash 7 project, we did a cargo unit. I had asked several repainters who did paints for the original Dash 7 to provide the skins. Andre Folkers did two that were really impressive (The Dash 7 Team (private) and the British City of London schemes) and he was asked to join the team. Andre did all the original Aero Commander and D18S work as well.Then I found this Civilian cargo AT-11 that I forgot about. LOL

Ah...now you're talkin Delightful Dash. This and the P-3 are the only turboprop 4's I enjoy.Hypothetically speaking of course but; what exactly determines a 'bushflyer'?Just curious to know whether an aircraft of this size fits into the category....Is it the size?...The pilot? The weight of mud, dust, oil and grime clinging to the airframe.The faded graphics? or scrapes from treetops that come into account?Or is it 'plane' geography? (pun idiotically intended).Ya know, some obscure place in Africa or South America where the cargo in question is being delivered to a bunch of good-guy mercenaries trying to fight a regime.Makes the mind boggle...

[Blackbird686]

Two of Milton's birds I haul with mostly FedEx!

You just gotta love the Howard 500. Heavy, Fast, a very capable airplane. Nice shot!

BB686

[Tom Clayton]

Nigel, "Bush Flying" can be thought of in different ways. There's lots of tiny little undeveloped strips with super-short runways that take quite a bit of skill to get in or out of. Then there's the pilots that would consider any man-made strip a luxury:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1PWMKjgr24

[ViperPilot2]

Nigel, "Bush Flying" can be thought of in different ways. There's lots of tiny little undeveloped strips with super-short runways that take quite a bit of skill to get in or out of. Then there's the pilots that would consider any man-made strip a luxury:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1PWMKjgr24

Or, you have these guys... just another day in the Congo (turn your volume down before clicking the link; the techno Russian ditty night be a little unnerving):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6iLH...eature=related

Note the AN-2's at the end of the runway...

I took a flight with Milton's AC 500 last night... I forgot just how smooth of an airplane it is to fly! I have an earlier version, too (AC500vc1) along with the Howard 500,
the Beech 18 and his Spartan Executive.

Thanks, Milton for all the sweet airplanes you and your team have created over the years!

Alan

[EMatheson]

"Bush" is a term from the 20th Century British Colonies (various bits of Africa, India, so on) with a meaning equivalent to "wilderness" or "jungle." The basic meaning is any undeveloped land. This does NOT mean virgin, untouched land, but rather un-Westernized land. Thus it means isolated, poorly maintained or neglected areas - or perhaps even including well-maintained "primitive" areas.
Aircraft considered well suited to "Bush" flying tend to be light, robust, and easily maintained, typically with large cargo capacities (for their class) and good short field performance, mainly because of the various conditions of undeveloped land (such as tight landings and ascents from small areas, rough ground, and long travelling distances).
Size and construction are thus quite important for bush planes. Smaller aircraft are more likely to possess the needed power-to-weight requirements and short-field performance than larger aircraft. They can also operate off of smaller stores of fuel, so they can be made to travel quite far off of less input. Light composite construction works great for most ordinary flying - and even for some aerobatics - but performs quite poorly in demanding, turbulent environments and does NOT absorb impacts (especially from sharp objects) very well. However, some larger aircraft may be suitable. For instance, a properly handled C-130 works as a good bush-plane (and it's even better with JATO bottles on the back!). However, you will probably Never see an Extra 300 or any tubeliner 600 miles into the Alaskan forest or deep in the jungles of Africa! For very similar sets of reasons, there are not that many helicopters that fly into the bush.
However, there are some exceptions to all rules. The Russians provide a lot of them. Their Antonovs, Mils, Kamovs, and so on provide some counter examples. Heck, they even have a tube built for bush flying in the form of the Yak 40! There are also a number of other American designs, like the Chinook, Blackhawk, and so on.

[Milton Shupe]

I was just thinking the same thing the other day. The C1A Trader already has a large door in the side, If we could get a model version with the interior seats removed so the cargo area would be available, it would be fantastic. A few boxes in the hold would be great, but even just the seats removed would do....Pretty Please, Milton?

Well, that is a reasonable request.

Now before I hand it over, I want two volunteers to paint it for EDIT: "Bush or any cargo scheme".

The Paint Kit is here: http://www.flightsimonline.com/Grumm...a-paintkit.zip

My apologies to "mgr" for bastardizing his paint scheme on this demo, but the textures will not be released.

Any takers for a paint scheme?

[Astoroth]

Well, that is a reasonable request.

Now before I hand it over, I want two volunteers to paint it for Bush.

My apologies to "mgr" for bastardizing his paint scheme on this demo, but the textures will not be released.

Any takers for a paint scheme?

OH Happy Day!! Thank you a million times Milton! This is gonna be great!

[hawkeye52]

That is the older package. Keep it.

This new package does not replace it but gives you 3 new models including the FedEx cargo unit.

http://www.flightsimonline.com/downloads/ac680sv31.zip

Anyone may download this for personal use only.
Please keep in mind that this is a 5 year old model. The VC gauges are not as clear as the new hi res stuff, but readable.

Thanks again!

- H52

[ViperPilot2]

Well, that is a reasonable request.

Now before I hand it over, I want two volunteers to paint it for EDIT: "Bush or any cargo scheme".
My apologies to "mgr" for bastardizing his paint scheme on this demo, but the textures will not be released.

Any takers for a paint scheme?

May I also request something 'Plain Jane' with just an N-Number, like it was just picked up from AMARC?

Milton - Thanks for such a timely reply; all of us really appreciate it!

Alan

[Matt Wynn]

ooooooh Trader Bush-ops! love it!

[t.creed]

this will be nice..!!! i also had the older 680 model, so thanks for posting the "newer" version link..

and really like the FX scheme...would be and ideal feeder aircraft..along side the D-18 ofcourse..

rgds
t creed

[oldpropfan]

Although I fly Milton's Beech and Commanders in FSX regularly this is another of my favorite bush cargo haulers:



One pilot, 1700 lbs of cargo, full tanks, and she still can get in and out of a 400 ft strip. You just won't get there as fast as some of the others.

Al

[Hurricane91]

One pilot, 1700 lbs of cargo, full tanks, and she still can get in and out of a 400 ft strip. You just won't get there as fast as some of the others.Al

...and when you're done for the day, there's a cold one waiting by the exit stairs. :o)
Nice screen shot. Thanks Al.