Took a little walk with FLIGHT

[Moparmike]

Moved to the MS Flight forum

[Screamn Eagle]

I like it so far just dont like the idea we will have pay for all the add-on :(

[Sascha66]

I actually went to buy Areofly, and they had no copy's in stock . Then after reading about how there are very few features in Areofly (no start/stop motor, click-able cockpit and so on) I realizes that Areofly was more of a game than Flight is . And look at all the people commenting how well Areofly is . Yes I'm as disappointed as many finding out that Fight was not another Flight simulator series .

Is this true? I wanted to buy AeroFLyFS over the week-end but if I can't start up my ride I don't want it.

CHeers,
Sascha

[Gibbage]

Is this true? I wanted to buy AeroFLyFS over the week-end but if I can't start up my ride I don't want it.

CHeers,
Sascha

In Flight, when you start from a runway, you start in an on state, and pointing down the runway. I wish MS gave us the option to start from the apron in a cold state. What you can do, is after your flight is done for the day, is pull over to the apron, shut down the engine properly, and exit Flight. Next time you start Flight, your aircraft will be were you parked it, in the state you parked it in. Much like it real life! Then you can go through the check list and properly start up the aircraft. You can follow real world startup procedures, or hit B for a quick automated start.

I should not talk about AFS as im clearly bias and in no position to talk about it, but right now its lacking VOR and ILS. I dont know of other features its lacking since I have not played it yet. But I must say, it looks AMAZING. From what I am hearing, its also got a very accurate flight model. I hope they do bring out a demo so users can properly test it out and make there own choice.

[XLR8]

No true, MS contacted just 2 major MSFS add on 3rd party developers, being these PMDG and ORBX, both declined since the conditions weren´t good in order to sign such a contract, one of the items was that everything should be exclusive to Flight and MS owned the rights, killing any other involvement with previous titles.Because, ladies and gentlemen, Flight uses the same code as FSX, enhanced in some sorts and dumbed down in others, sure, the nomenclatures have changed, but it´s the same platform(MS never hid this fact from anybody), so developing for Flight, shouldn´t be more different than developing for FSX.
So, currently (and i highly doubt it will ever happen), Flight is a MS ball(or like my wife likes to call, a MS raincoat festival), MS dictates what should be developed, and how it should look, with all the responsibilities of such production in one single company, under the promise of millions of units of DLC per year...Or so the legend goes..
Did they cut the freeware developer out of the party? so far the did...with no signs of this changing in the future
Is this a MS payware fest? yup, never mind what you want, they decide for you..
Will Flight eventually evolve into something we can relate to previous titles? pray for Flight´s current vision demise, i´m sure if things don´t go the MS way, they will eventually listen and do what the crowds want, i´m not crossing my fingers, because even so, they wont look at us as an option(the 3rd party dev).
Now, sure, Flight is not for everyone, and yes in some way, it´s kinda entertaining, the same way HAWXS is, for me, it´s like an alternate title,
Best regards

Prowler

Thanks, I knew some developers were contacted and no compromise was determined .

[XLR8]

Is this true? I wanted to buy AeroFLyFS over the week-end but if I can't start up my ride I don't want it.

CHeers,
Sascha

There was a very good review on the net with the pros and cons of AeroFLyFS . AeroFLyFS pretty much is a spin-off from the companies RC (radio control ) sim .

[Sascha66]

In Flight, when you start from a runway, you start in an on state, and pointing down the runway. I wish MS gave us the option to start from the apron in a cold state. What you can do, is after your flight is done for the day, is pull over to the apron, shut down the engine properly, and exit Flight. Next time you start Flight, your aircraft will be were you parked it, in the state you parked it in. Much like it real life! Then you can go through the check list and properly start up the aircraft. You can follow real world startup procedures, or hit B for a quick automated start.

I should not talk about AFS as im clearly bias and in no position to talk about it, but right now its lacking VOR and ILS. I dont know of other features its lacking since I have not played it yet. But I must say, it looks AMAZING. From what I am hearing, its also got a very accurate flight model. I hope they do bring out a demo so users can properly test it out and make there own choice.

Thanks! Sounds good, but you are right - a demo would be much better before forking out almost 50 $! I don't really feel needy because I'm still happy with FS9 and then I have all of FSX to go through still

[Javis]

2.- Depends, missions here are called "adventures" and gives you rewards, or you can go hunting gold medals for points, but as up today, no rescue missions, dangerous airports approachs etc, nop none of that.

That's not entirely correct, Prowler... certainly there are rescue missions and a lot of the smaller airstrips around the islands are more dangerous to approach and land on as i have ever seen with FSX. ( check out the photographer airstrips ride, you'll see ! )

Also, next to the 3 different Activities options ( Missions, Challenges, Aerocache Hunt ), if you choose Free Flight you can click each and every airport and airstrip around the islands and take up an abundage of 'Jobs' of which a lot will surely seperate the boys from the men... The more experienced you'll get the more challenging they become. You can also setup your own flight conditions during these jobs , weather, time of day, start in the air or on the ground, etc.

Being a betatester i guess you must've missed the Gold edition...

cheers,
jan

[Prowler1111]

well to be honest, i played it for a whole day, went here and there, posted some bugs, and left the heck out of there since i really don´t feel it´s for me, besides, i´m too busy developing.Beta it´s still installed, might get final version eventually if time permits, but it´s nothing i´m actually looking for.
best regards

Prowler

[Panther_99FS]

1.-: NO, no port overs, no way to include other aircraft unless the MS installer into the new files nomenclature, no way no can do, sorry
Best regards
Prowler

Good!
IMHO, enabling port-overs is exactly what hindered FSX....

[Gibbage]

Good!
IMHO, enabling port-overs is exactly what hindered FSX....

+1000!!!! Backwards compatibility really crippled advancement of the MSFS line. You could NOT remove old code in the engine or it would brake backwards compatibility, so MSFS was LITTERED with old code. Thats why it could not be made to run very well on modern hardware like Flight does.

It sucks for the consumer that invested heavily in an eco system, but MS now has systems in place in Flight to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.

[Panther_99FS]

+1000!!!! Backwards compatibility really crippled advancement of the MSFS line. You could NOT remove old code in the engine or it would brake backwards compatibility, so MSFS was LITTERED with old code. Thats why it could not be made to run very well on modern hardware like Flight does.

You got that right!
Again, IMHO, FSX could have been so much better if backwards-compatibility was scrapped from the start.

Another reason why if I get a new desktop, Flight is definitely going on it....

[Meshman]

You got that right!
Another reason why if I get a new desktop, Flight is definitely going on it....

Well Mr. P, there are nice crash sequences to watch! Not that I've had any to speak of or desire to post pictures of...

[gigabyte]

Oh the Crash Animations... Panther you will be amazed, I have dug some pretty deep holes in a few runways already, it will bring a whole new meaning to "Panthring"

[beana51]

"FRAPS" gives" FLIGHT" very high marks!...