SU-26 is out!!

[snowbird552]

Snowbird is it really that bad? This is yet another thread dumping on someone's hard work and let's face it just to get the model to look that good must have taken considerable effort! Did you contact the developer first to see if any issues had been reported or to make a report yourself?

Frankly with these stickies of new releases being blasted from a great height it seems it would be better to simply have an announcements page!

If our FsX developers are so poor, deserving so many damning posts of late, then perhaps MS Flight would suit better because the guys who make the sim and all the add-ons are all under the same roof so complaining is easier.

I think this is getting blown out of proportion... I have contacted the dev directly (before posting here) and am still waiting for a response. I posted here after seeing zlins post being discarded as dev trashing, when all I read was that he gave the 3d model praise and the sounds and fde a poor rating. Having purchased the plane myself, I felt that I needed to chime in on my experience which was very much the same. It also seems that any of the positive comments I make in my posts are ignored, while the negative ones have been highlighted. I have stated before that my problem is with the advertisement and not with devs & FSX limitations (even though the problem goes beyond that in this case). I have also never said anything about our FSX devs being of poor quality, please don't put words in my mouth. This is a specific complaint of a product from a veteran developer (Alabeo is pretty much Carenado), they are not new to this game. It is frustrating though, when devs known for first class products (like Carenado/Alabeo) allow something that has aspects that seem unfinished to be released. If they couldn't make the flight model close to reality, then don't advertise real flight model and if you can't find radial sounds for a radial powered aircraft, then don't advertise real sounds.

I look at criticism this way. Would products like the VRS Super Bug or anything from PMDG, A2A, Iris, Milviz etc... be available if people hadn't pushed for higher standards? Think of all the things that were previously "impossible in FSX" that are now pretty common in payware releases.

[hews500d]

In spite of all the negative comments, I caved and bought the Sukhoi. Honestly, it isn't that bad at all. Are there some things that could be improved upon..yes, which I will get into in a moment.

From all of the comments I have read, here and elsewhere, about poor handling I was quiet surprised in that I was able to coax tumbles, torque rolls, high-alpha low speed flight (ala Jurgis Kairys), pretty much 90 percent I would say of what the real Su-26 is capable of doing. Only once did I get it into anything that didn't look like a "natural" aerobatic maneuver. Throw in 18 to 20 gallons of fuel for aerobatics, and this thing is a blast to fly! I just realized I forgot to try any spins, so I will be checking that shortly. Roll rate, could be faster, but all in all this plane has some serious potential in my opinion.

I read on Alabeo's Facebook page where someone was complaining about it taking forever to slow down for landing. I did not find that to be my experience at all. Cutting the throttle gets the airspeed down to landing speeds in very little time. The airspeeds are displayed in kilometers per hour so I am wondering if this person might be confusing 150 km/h with 150 knots or mph?? I don't know, just speculation on my part about that.

The few things I don't like about it, some of the VC decals could be sharper in the rear cockpit section , and they did not include the two g-meters that are down under the radios. Sukhoi installs two with one of them being inverted so negative g's can be measured above -5 (the g-meters only register +10 to -5, so flipping one will allow you to read up to -10). Also, the tube along the right side of the cockpit should be the fuel gauge, giving you a visual check on the fuel remaining. I noticed they did not do anything with this, but included a fuel gauge in the area where one of the g-meters should be. They also included a mixture control, but the the real thing has an aneroid capsule which adjusts the mixture at various altitudes, so no mixture control is needed.

I didn't like the stock sounds at all, but adding this sound pack http://fspropeller.blogspot.com/search/label/Sound (halfway down the page is a link for an Su-26 sound file) and flying from tower view, my wife who was in the other room thought I was watching a YouTube video of the real thing judging from the sound. These are the closest to the M-14P engine that I have heard.

Regardless of the few "flaws" I'm glad I bought this one and will continue to have fun with it, even if nothing is fixed.

Darrell

[skyhawka4m]

HEWS!!!!! That sound is perfect!!!!

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[jmig]

I want to make a correction to an earlier post I made. In that post I said that Alabeo did not get back with me after I email them, saying that I received a messages telling me I wan't in their database. Well I was wrong. They did get back with me. However, for some reason, I only received the email on my notebook computer and not my main computer? I only saw it tonight when I sat down to do some work and turned on the notebook.

... Sukhoi installs two with one of them being inverted so negative g's can be measured above -5 (the g-meters only register +10 to -5, so flipping one will allow you to read up to -10). ...
Darrell

OMG! -10 Gs. I have pulled 2 neg Gs and everything went red and I had an instant blinding headache, as the blood rushed into my head.

[dvj]

HEWS!!!!! That sound is perfect!!!!

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That texture looks amazing!

[hews500d]

OMG! -10 Gs. I have pulled 2 neg Gs and everything went red and I had an instant blinding headache, as the blood rushed into my head.

Yep!! The pilot I was corresponding with when I learned about the g-meters owns an Su-31, flies airshows, and has been to the World Aerobatic Championships before. He said they regularly work around +11 just guessing, to -8 unless they are doing a freestyle routine and then both needles are usually pegged. Most pilots don't bother to pay attention to them. In his words, "the Sukhoi is flown with a 'no limits' mindest most of the time.

The thing is built like a tank!

Darrell

[kilo delta]

There used to be a Su-26 flown from my local field (and a Su-29 2 seater)...also flown by a World Aerobatic Championships competitor. Unfortunately it's toast now having gone up in a ball of flame following a fire during start up. The pilot has just picked up a new composite XtremeAir Sbach 342 for competition use.

[Ark]

I can't seem to purchase the aircraft. I keep getting a connection error in Webpay. All other sites seem to work just fine.

I posted about it on the Alabeo Facebook page and they deleted my post. lol

[Txmmy83]

There used to be a Su-26 flown from my local field (and a Su-29 2 seater)...also flown by a World Aerobatic Championships competitor. Unfortunately it's toast now having gone up in a ball of flame following a fire during start up. The pilot has just picked up a new composite XtremeAir Sbach 342 for competition use.

The XtremeAir Sbach 342 a Great plane for aerobatics
Potential Alabeo canditate? Hope so

[skyhawka4m]

I'm hoping they do the YAK-50, or the Pitts radial variant

[kilo delta]

The XtremeAir Sbach 342 a Great plane for aerobatics
Potential Alabeo canditate? Hope so

I hope so too. Quite the performer from what I've seen.

[zlin]

Sorry, this is my whimsy when I thinking about FS FDE... If I speaking about "how should be work an aileron?" then I thinking about something like this: Not absolutely perfect I know, but much more better than Sukhoi or Pitts.Both of Alabeo product's aileron is a piece of sh... compare to this video.Additional info: This video made ~4 years ago by me from our upcoming project. Model by me and one of my friend, FD and textures made by me.

[skyhawka4m]

Is this a 242? I am always hoping someone will do a 242.

[zlin]

No, it's Z-142 with LOM M-337AK engine (6-cylinder, inline) 210HP. The Z-242 have a 4 cylinder Lycoming boxer engine.