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    At the moment I am trying to find a decent shot of an Ansett-ANA DC-6 so I can do a repaint. Also looking for a decent Trans Australian Airlines DC-6 as well so I can add to that stable also.

    I love flying this aircraft but am trying to do repaints so I can have some Aussie models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okami View Post
    Sorry mate, I actually dismissed textures for less when I was beta-ing the VBF CV-240 repaints...

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    SABENA???? Who cares, just a tin pot minor airline that counts for nought.
    Hows that for a dismissal???
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    It's not that I think stupidity should be punishable by death. I just think we should take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem take care of itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Riveting!
    You must be joking! Cheerio!

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    Okay, I posted just one criticism yesterday evening, and the very last thing i expected was to cause a ****storm. I'm just going to run you all step by step through what I did, and why I did it in such a way.


    1. I'm working in an industry where I'm expected to deliver high quality products time after time, and where we work according to the peer review system. We mark up each other's work, any minor mistake is a single mark, any severe mistake is a double mark. Anything over ten marks on one product is an automatic disapproval. I understand I might be asking too much from anybody not being used to being evaluated in this way.

    2. I'm also known for not pulling punches. I call something as I see it, and if I disapprove of something I say so. What I saw, in my eyes, was not done to the standard I was expecting of a payware product - especially not one that has an advertisement campaign running in virtually every single aviation magazine I read.

    3. I have also done quite research into Sabena for the past five years, so perhaps I am more knowledgeable about certain aspects, such as the company's liveries. I admit I allowed this to colour my vision on the subject. So I do offer my apologies for that.

    Finally, in response to some of the replies I read in this and the other thread:

    4. I am familiar with modelling, and I have also done quite a number of repaints, so I am well aware how challenging it is. I've actually canned some of my own stuff for less. So no need to attack me on that, thank you.

    5. Wombat, if ever, that was probably the most disgusting argument I've ever read on any forum I've ever visited. Sabena is a personal matter for me. I routinely flew it, my parents flew it, my grandparents flew it, my great-grandfather even had quite a hairy emergency landing with the company in the 1930s which he only survived thanks to the skill of the company's pilots. I also have quite a number of acquaintances who worked for the company. For me, dishing the memory of the company is dishing them personally.

    With that all said, I think it is probably best for me to shut up, I know when I'm not needed anymore, and apparently, from all of the replies, I'm 'irrelevant'.

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    Okami, Maarten, what's wrong with you? Why are you starting such a 'campaign' against JF and AH in this and other forums?

    You are both still FS9 users. So why do you care about FSX addons then? Is it out of anger, because they do not support your Flight Simulator anymore...?

    Constructive criticism is always welcomed. But making baseless and/or nit-picking accusations is nothing that should be tolerated over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim-HH View Post
    Okami, Maarten, what's wrong with you? Why are you starting such a 'campaign' against JF and AH in this and other forums?

    You are both still FS9 users. So why do you care about FSX addons then? Is it out of anger, because they do not support your Flight Simulator anymore...?

    Constructive criticism is always welcomed. But making baseless and/or nit-picking accusations is nothing that should be tolerated over here.

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    Excuse me Tim. If anyone is starting a "campaign" it is not Okami or me doing that. I was merely surprised about the quality of this payware DC-6. It was not an attack on anyone personally.

    What Okami and myself on the other hand are undergoing after writing what our impression is, is hard to describe without becoming as rude as many people who reacted to our opinion. So I'll refrain from that.

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    What Baz has stated isn't anything new or out of the ordinary and it certainly won't be the last thread on this topic.

    That's the difference from a salary job and a indy team. If a dev team takes 1 year to produce an aircraft that's down to the last cm believe me, you wouldn't be able to afford this kind of accuracy on a regular basis. Gathering resources, 3d modellers, texture artists, FDE and XML Coders, project management, promotional material doesn't come cheap.

    If I had to write up my personal hourly work for each aircraft and relied on it to pay the mortgage, Id be living under the stars.

    Sorry to sadden everyone's hopes here BUT, you won't find a "100% accurate" aircraft in FSX EVER.. its just not physically possible. I don't care who the team is, its all lies.

    I know where Baz is coming from with this, I've had it myself so as a lot of other teams and for those that say get thicker skin deserves a fat lip.

    Sales are not as they used to be and everyone's feeling it. New aircraft are not coming in as thick and fast as they used to be. Old products are being revamped and re-sold simply because the ROI is diminishing.

    vstudios won't be developing any new aircraft, we'll be completing what we have and then going down other avenues.

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    I would truely like to see this thread back on topic but if it stays as it is then we will have to close it. There is a way to criticise in a kind and helpful way that few if any would take objection to, but some of the comments here are rubbishing the model rather than simply thinking that they hate it and leaving the rest of us to enjoy what we see. Members here don't need anyone telling them that their choice is poor and longstanding commercial members don't need the sort of mudslinging we have seen here.
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    I know I get paranoid sometimes;-) but I do so hope my previous post is not 'lumped' in with some these truely shameful rants? I tried to be as objective as possible.

    For the price, I think this addon is more than fair.

    ****me, no wonder so many developers are pulling out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okami View Post
    2. I'm also known for not pulling punches. I call something as I see it, and if I disapprove of something I say so. What I saw, in my eyes, was not done to the standard I was expecting of a payware product - especially not one that has an advertisement campaign running in virtually every single aviation magazine I read.
    This is the point some people are addressing here. First of all, while you may be “known for not pulling punches”, some are wondering why it is necessary to throw punches in the first place. What is the point of delivering what might otherwise be received as constructive criticism in the form of a “punch”, pulled or otherwise? One might try “hey, I can help you with this paint, here’s some reliable data I have on how it looks…”. This way it looks like you’re trying to help, see? When you instead say: “this is the worst paint job I’ve ever seen”, then it doesn’t look like you’re trying to be helpful. It looks like you’re trying to impress the crowd with how smart you are at somebody else’s expense, which doesn’t reflect well on you.

    There are differences between being employed “in an industry where I'm expected to deliver high quality products time after time, and where we work according to the peer review system…” etc., and hanging out at a flight sim community web site as an interested observer. In the latter case, civility may be more effective…
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    I'm calling Donald Douglas about this!

    Here's how I see it (for what little it's worth).

    Criticism about the product is really criticism of the people whose work it is.

    No matter how you slice it, that makes it personal.

    If you tell me my work sucks, in reality you're telling me, I suck.

    Do you really think I'm going to take kindly to anyone who tells me I suck?

    The old adage is always true, "if you can't say anything nice, shut up"

    I'm not saying everyone isn't entitled to their opinion, I'm just saying don't poison the well we all gotta drink from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    This is the point some people are addressing here. First of all, while you may be “known for not pulling punches”, some are wondering why it is necessary to throw punches in the first place. What is the point of delivering what might otherwise be received as constructive criticism in the form of a “punch”, pulled or otherwise? One might try “hey, I can help you with this paint, here’s some reliable data I have on how it looks…”. This way it looks like you’re trying to help, see? When you instead say: “this is the worst paint job I’ve ever seen”, then it doesn’t look like you’re trying to be helpful. It looks like you’re trying to impress the crowd with how smart you are at somebody else’s expense, which doesn’t reflect well on you.

    There are differences between being employed “in an industry where I'm expected to deliver high quality products time after time, and where we work according to the peer review system…” etc., and hanging out at a flight sim community web site as an interested observer. In the latter case, civility may be more effective…
    Beautifully& succinctly put

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okami View Post
    Wombat, if ever, that was probably the most disgusting argument I've ever read on any forum I've ever visited. Sabena is a personal matter for me. I routinely flew it, my parents flew it, my grandparents flew it, my great-grandfather even had quite a hairy emergency landing with the company in the 1930s which he only survived thanks to the skill of the company's pilots. I also have quite a number of acquaintances who worked for the company. For me, dishing the memory of the company is dishing them personally.
    With that all said, I think it is probably best for me to shut up, I know when I'm not needed anymore, and apparently, from all of the replies, I'm 'irrelevant'.
    Good thinking the last paragraph.
    SABENA????
    A 'disgusting' argument????
    Perhaps you need to 'develope a thicker skin'.......I prefer to not 'pull any punches' myself.
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    TBH im not an old airliners fan, even the DC-6 doesnt tickly my fancy but this is a very nice priced addon for the quality recieved. Infact there are addon's that are priced in the same £15-£25 range (abacus, AFS and LJL) that are a lot worse in both the model and paint quality when compaired to this addon...

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