MilViz F-15E or IRIS F-15?

[michael davies]

Iris above, MilViz below

Much obliged, kinda guessed that from the little details, sure are some differences in basic shape and form of two identical models. Either ones too short, or the other too long, I suspect in sim both are the same length but the height to length ratio on one will be different, a common problem with some drawings around the net these days. No idea which is right or wrong, if either, or both, but there is a clear difference.

[Barnes]

Wow Michael - i never noticed as i had made one more distant than the other so i did not take much notice.

You are right - I'd say the noses are the most different.

[michael davies]

Wow Michael - i never noticed as i had made one more distant than the other so i did not take much notice.

You are right - I'd say the noses are the most different.

Its not just the noses, the canopy, spine, fast pack, fins and rear end around the elevons too, I've taken your shot and rescaled the lower one to the same length as the upper one, that way the length height ratio can be seen easier, if they're both the correct length then either one is too tall or the other too slim height wise.

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[JAllen]

Thinking I like the sleeker look of the upper one but the lower is closer to real world as I compare them to actual photos on my desk top. Don't know if the actual photo is distorted. Some unbiased soul who has years on Eagle flightlines may have a better perspective seeing the duo in the sim. Did somebody work from actual construction drawings?

Jim

[Barnes]

Thinking I like the sleeker look of the upper one but the lower is closer to real world as I compare them to actual photos on my desk top. Don't know if the actual photo is distorted. Some unbiased soul who has years on Eagle flightlines may have a better perspective seeing the duo in the sim. Did somebody work from actual construction drawings?

Jim

I agree with you.

[c87]

That's interesting. Look at the differences in the dimension from the top of the intake to the canopy rail; the size of the lower missile platform on the conformal fuel tank and the ejection seats. I guess that's one way to compare models, if you're into the visual accuracy.

[Barnes]

Yes - the seat size sure varies


http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA--...8f6323b3a6965a

[Barnes]

Bit of Welsh mountain flying

[dougal95]

Im still enjoying both versions - both have plus points

Oh no!!!!

There I was, just thinking I'd FINALLY made up mind which one I was getting too

[flaviossa]

Yes, i´m about to buy one for my hangar too ... and opened this topic to look for some help. Now i´m more confused than i was in the beginning!

[dougal95]

I think I was almost seconds away from pulling the trigger on the latter IRIS release before that pic arrived;-)

Now though, to be honest, at least from that pic, the shape and colours of the Milviz model look stunning.

It's all well and good for some folk to say "get both", but not all of us can.

[michael davies]

Thinking I like the sleeker look of the upper one but the lower is closer to real world as I compare them to actual photos on my desk top. Don't know if the actual photo is distorted. Some unbiased soul who has years on Eagle flightlines may have a better perspective seeing the duo in the sim. Did somebody work from actual construction drawings?

Jim

There shouldn't be any distortion, I suspect both were taken in sim but at different focal lengths but that will not alter the length height ratio, all I did was rescale the lower one, what got longer by 15% also got taller by 15%, the lower one is certainly more accurate in the tail area and conformal tank area. Regarding the noses, the sleek nose looks more F-14ish, yet the other more tubby, everyone sees shapes differently, to me, and this is my own gut feeling, neither look right, either may be technically and exactly right by the numbers, but I've found the sim tends to benefit models that are made to look right rather than exact replicas dimensionally, ie you bend a few bits here and there to obtain the 'character' of the subject. I'm not talking huge numbers, just an inch here or there can throw a whole different feel to a model.

People cannot measure pictures by eye, we don't have tape measures built into our optics, it would be cool if we did though LOL, people measure by proportion and reference/juxtaposition to other parts, and that makes it a personal 'image' in our minds and thus subjective . I think a blend between the two nose/canopy sections would make me 'feel' it looked like a F-15. We cannot actually measure things in the sim, theres nothing tangible to measure, so we rely on the visual proportions to make us think its right, well I do anyway LOL.

Those who model in other genres will know what I'm talking about, especially model railroading, exact scale models sometimes fail to portray the 'presence' of the real thing, especially in the smaller scales 1:72 and smaller.

[michael davies]

I think I was almost seconds away from pulling the trigger on the latter IRIS release before that pic arrived;-)

Now though, to be honest, at least from that pic, the shape and colours of the Milviz model look stunning.

It's all well and good for some folk to say "get both", but not all of us can.

LOL, your best bet is to get the one that 'feels' right for you, I doubt there is a right or wrong choice, just personal preference. I think they both look very good, but there are differences.

[flaviossa]

I never saw an f15 in real life ... so for me it´s a bit harder to determine witch one represents best the real one. Not trying to go in the "mine is better than yours" thing, just a help to spend my money in the right place. I have planes from IRIS and Milviz and i´m happy with all of them. Less criptic posts like "ahhh, i bought the right one, look how it´s right" would help too!

[Jetmechanic]

IRIS F-15E the best one