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    Your very welcome.. Glad i could help..
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    thanks Pam...the plane is much better now!

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    So go to aircraft.cfg and change line of:

    static_thrust = 1732

    for the new

    static_thrust = 173.2


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    I noticed a bug with flaps indicator (1.21):

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    Flaps are on position 1, but shows full too.

    And for me model needs better flight dynamics - is too heavy for me. I saw some videos on Youtube and landing looks shorter and start too (requires faster full power), but nice aircraft to explore Antarctica.

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    Would you like the 1.0 version of the FDE?? 1.2 was modified by someone else but i'm willing to send out the 1.0 to anyone who asks for it..
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    Please email me, webmaster yoyosims.pl I never used 1.00 so it will be nice to test it. Thank You!
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    in the mail ..
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    Actually, thinking back. I've landed this thing at Lukla, with a pre-release version of the FDE.. I dont think mI ever tried it with the 1.0 release version though..
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    On one of the forums, someone mentioned that the min_throttle_limit = -0.10 should be -0.22 or as in Warchilds 1.0 cfg -0.25. This will give you reverse on landing and let you back up. Keep in mind that the engines spool slow so it will take time after you put it in reverse for the airplane to start moving backwards. That combined with the static_thrust correction seems to make a huge improvement.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sieggie View Post
    On one of the forums, someone mentioned that the min_throttle_limit = -0.10 should be -0.22 or as in Warchilds 1.0 cfg -0.25. This will give you reverse on landing and let you back up. Keep in mind that the engines spool slow so it will take time after you put it in reverse for the airplane to start moving backwards. That combined with the static_thrust correction seems to make a huge improvement.

    Dave
    Now, in default model for me revers doesnt work. Take Throttle (decrease) for revers (like always for me works exp: DHC-6 of Aerosoft) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk7d8vQznbk but with Spartan no revers effect. Any tested this -0.22 or -0.25. Is it work?


    About this FMD from 1.0 version (Pam). Maybe the best way is to take only lines from engine for 1.2.1 ?

    ;------------ ENGINES -------------------------------
    ect.

    with old .air file ?
    1.2. has a some of new feautures and improved autopilot.
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    Possibly... What ghappened was that we started working on the spartan some time ago. Then, with the pre beta flight model still in development, work stopped for quite some time. The next thing i know is that the spartan is being released, with some modifications to my fde. among them, the reverse no longer works, even for me..
    I've examined the 1.0 config file file and compared it with the original beta version config file.. needless to say, there are quite a few differences.. I'm going back into testing right now and updating the original fde to fit the release, while not losing any original work.. will let you know what happens..
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoYo View Post
    Now, in default model for me revers doesnt work. Take Throttle (decrease) for revers (like always for me works exp: DHC-6 of Aerosoft) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk7d8vQznbk but with Spartan no revers effect. Any tested this -0.22 or -0.25. Is it work?


    About this FMD from 1.0 version (Pam). Maybe the best way is to take only lines from engine for 1.2.1 ?

    ;------------ ENGINES -------------------------------
    ect.

    with old .air file ?
    1.2. has a some of new feautures and improved autopilot.
    I tested the -0.22 but not the -0.25 and the reverse works. I think -0.25 is the correct number and will start using that. As I mentioned, everything with the engine is slooooooow so don't expect the reverse to just happen immediately, give it a couple of seconds. In my Saitek setup when I pull the throttle all the way back I send a -16384 through FSUIPC to the flight sim so calibration is not an issue.

    Dave

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    been working on rebuilding the 1.0 fde into v 1.3 but there are problems.. The first one being that, no matter where i set the static thrust, the plane wants to start rolling at 30 mph as soon as i start the engines.. the second problem is that above 250 knots, something keeps throttling the power and the plane buffets badly.. Plus, it wont go over 250 knots. I suspect a gaugwe, but i could be incorrect.. I'll keep working on it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by warchild View Post
    been working on rebuilding the 1.0 fde into v 1.3 but there are problems.. The first one being that, no matter where i set the static thrust, the plane wants to start rolling at 30 mph as soon as i start the engines.. the second problem is that above 250 knots, something keeps throttling the power and the plane buffets badly.. Plus, it wont go over 250 knots. I suspect a gaugwe, but i could be incorrect.. I'll keep working on it..
    Pam
    Pam,
    Thanks for this info! Greate, Today I will fly with this 1.00 FDE and I will give You feedback.

    edit:
    tested 1.00 + old aircraft cfg.
    No, no no. Isnt realistic too. Some better - like ground operation, take off but in the air Spartan dont fly, he swims. In 1.2 Spartan better recives cruise speed. He is more stable. Engine is too hot too fast in 1.0, on the start, on the runway yet. Landing - flaps works like air brake not like a flaps. Too big effect for this. I must land with N1 95% (!), again engines are too hot (yellow labels) on the approach (!), near stall speed. Revers works ok.
    1.2 & 1.0 needs corrections but I think I prefer now 1.2 with changes like above in aircraft.cfg. Id like to have only more power for take off in 1.2.

    Maybe some chnges in 1.2 :

    [TurbineEngineData]
    fuel_flow_gain = 0.005
    inlet_area = 1.0
    rated_N2_rpm = 14267
    static_thrust = 173.2
    afterburner_available = 0
    reverser_available = 1


    [turboprop_engine]
    power_scalar = 1.0
    maximum_torque = 23876 //Based on SHP of 4637HP at 1020 Prop RPM
    powerspecificfuelconsumption= 1

    ?

    Tested 1.2 with changes (revers for -0.22) and static_thrust = 173.2. Mutch better.
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