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    A Lockheed "Rounder"

    So, I did some research on the Lodestar, put together some folders of all the data and ref pics, and mistakenly put in the Harpoon 3-view. LOL

    So, this is what I got.

    After the Grumman "Five" (7 variants) and Avia 51 and 156 projects ( 9 total aircraft variants), I will proceed with the the Harpoon and Lodestar projects as SOH participative team work. Well, at least that's my intent. Maybe throw in the Model 18 civvie for good measure.

    So, Harpoon first, then Lodestar. Does it really matter?

    I can't do this without you all helping out. Do we have a deal? :mixedsmi:
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    I'm in! Hoping for the civvie Model 18 myself, but I do like Harpoons too.

    Wait till Moses sees this!
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    I've been hoping for a Harpoon...

    and since Milton and team are doing it it will be spectacular!

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    Definitely will do anything I can to help. I think the closest Harpoon is now at Chino,CA after the Rialto PD used the one at my airport as a gunnery target, allegedly without the owners permission. I think the same guy/company owns the one at KCNO and I think I can get access to it for pictures.
    I'll get working on that tomorrow just in case you need some in the build process.

    Not sure where the closest Lodestar may be found, I think there is a conversion at KCMA, but need to double check that.

    Great news that you have decided to round out the Lockheed lines....they could not have been taken up by a more talented designer. I am sure the rest of the SOH "staff" of volunteers will once again step into the breach as they did with the Avia and Grummans.

    Cheers
    Stefan

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    Thanks guys. I am in pretty good shape for Harpoon reference pictures for the exterior.
    What would be nice are interior and cockpit shots. Those are the least easy to find.

    As for the Lodestar, same deal with ref pics.
    I would like a better quality Lodestar 3-view.
    The Harpoon 3-view is great but my Lodestar is very basic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    ...... I can't do this without you all helping out. Do we have a deal? :mixedsmi:


    Milton , you're spoiling us

    I don't have the skills for aircraft design or panel and paint work , but I can sure help out by bring virtual coffeee ( ) and encouragement at any time.

    I'd be good at placing a hangar and flight office on a strip anywhere to suit to house this creation though.

    Pete.

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    The Harpoon is esentially the aircraft that Dee Howard re-manufactured into the well known Howard 500, so some things come full circle!

    T

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    I have uploaded a PDF of the 1946 Pilot's manual. Since it is a US government document it is not subject to copyright* so no problems there. This should help some with the interior views and performances specs HTH

    http://www.mediafire.com/?d9wik5a6f235v3k


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    what.....a.......beauty! i'll be ready when you are Milton :salute:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    So, Harpoon first, then Lodestar. Does it really matter?
    Yes it does....LODESTAR!:salute: Mostly because the Lodestar had so many different applications both military and civil. (Think of all those great airline liveries). Of couse some Aleutian 'Poons would be cool as well. A win win here.

    Snapped some shots of Lady Lodestar (before her crash) a few years ago, along with the CAF PV-2.

    Great to hear Milton.

    Moze

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willy View Post
    I'm in! Hoping for the civvie Model 18 myself, but I do like Harpoons too.

    Wait till Moses sees this!
    Well, had I started with the Lodestar as I intended, the Harpoon likely would not have been done. But after 2 days of cobbling together and pushing polys, I said, "Might as well do the Harpoon!".

    Quote Originally Posted by wbuchart View Post
    and since Milton and team are doing it it will be spectacular!
    Well, thanks, but it's not about me, it's about fun here at SOH and getting these Lockheeds to fruition, finally.

    Quote Originally Posted by norab View Post
    I have uploaded a PDF of the 1946 Pilot's manual. Since it is a US government document it is not subject to copyright* so no problems there. This should help some with the interior views and performances specs HTH

    http://www.mediafire.com/?d9wik5a6f235v3k


    ... snipped... "
    Thanks a bunch! I appreciate that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Wynn View Post
    what.....a.......beauty! i'll be ready when you are Milton :salute:
    That would be after teh Grumman and Avia projects are wrapped. Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses03 View Post
    Yes it does....LODESTAR!:salute: Mostly because the Lodestar had so many different applications both military and civil. (Think of all those great airline liveries). Of couse some Aleutian 'Poons would be cool as well. A win win here.

    Great to hear Milton.

    Moze
    Well, as I said, I really meant to do the Lodestar first but in my ignorance ...

    I'm really not into doing a full-fledged Harpoon but I will get all the basics in place and we shall see how she comes about.

    Thanks
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    Milton, let us know what pics you need and we'll scour the net looking for 'em!

    Here's a USAAF C-60 Lodestar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willy View Post
    Milton, let us know what pics you need and we'll scour the net looking for 'em!

    Here's a USAAF C-60 Lodestar
    Thank Willy. I love that picture.

    I have lots of walk-a-round pictures of the exterior so in good shape there for the moment.

    I really need some cockpit pictures of both the Harpoon and Lodestar.

    I prefer original design over later mods.

    Well, just did my first export and got her setup in the sim. No issues.
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    Milton

    Thanks for doing the Lodestar.:salute: I've been waiting a long time for this one and can't wait to put some paint on it.
    Andre

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    I always put my buddies first...

    Some of my buddies have been waiting a real long time just to hear those golden words.

    Now they have their day, and fellas, I'm really happy fer ya'ol!
    Cos when my buddies are happy, so am I.


    Does this mean I'm out of a job?

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    Yes please!! I throw in my vote for both the Harpoon and the Lodestar. The Harpoon is looking good, Milton!
    Mark


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    Yes! Terrible mistake for your peace and quiet I think Sir...

    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post

    So, Harpoon first, then Lodestar. Does it really matter?

    I can't do this without you all helping out. Do we have a deal? :mixedsmi:

    Deal! :mixedsmi:

    I'm in (if you want me, that is...)!!!

    For some oddball reason, I thought these ships all wore Wright R-1820's.
    Not that I wouldn't do them again and again...and over again, AGAIN!!!).

    Checking up, I see the Harp had R-2800's (arguably one of the finest air-cooled radials ever engineered) and the majority of Lodestars had Pratt & Whitney R-1690-25 or Pratt & Whitney R-1830 engines.

    I'll put my money where my keyboard is, and do ALL engine variants if they are to be tackled in this interesting project.



    So be prepared Sir, for a constant bombardment of Radial din that will make you wish you'd gone for the hang-glider.

    It was on the options list, wasn't it?
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    Oh Man! Lockheed Twins by the Milton Shupe SOH Team. What great news!
    Striker, listen, and you listen close: flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle, just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.

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    Milton

    Once there is an exterior model with base textures* I could,if demanded do the effects

    Thanks

    Roland

    *effects tend to interfere with textures sometimes(load order)

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    Don't know if this helps. http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=2536

    Attachment 54541
    Lockheed Ventura Mk.II AJ 311 cockpit. (U.S. Air Force photo)

    Also found this link some pics from a salvage yard.

    http://calclassic.proboards.com/inde...nt&thread=3799

    I'll look for some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrogers View Post
    Yes please!! I throw in my vote for both the Harpoon and the Lodestar. The Harpoon is looking good, Milton!
    Thanks, the startup was made just a bit easier (I thought anyhow) by the Howard 500 shell. However, I ended up rebuilding the fuselage, empennage, wings and flaps. The engines are close and the gear is right on so that pushed me over the edge.

    Quote Originally Posted by nigel richards View Post
    Deal! :mixedsmi:

    I'm in (if you want me, that is...)!!!

    For some oddball reason, I thought these ships all wore Wright R-1820's.
    Not that I wouldn't do them again and again...and over again, AGAIN!!!).

    Checking up, I see the Harp had R-2800's (arguably one of the finest air-cooled radials ever engineered) and the majority of Lodestars had Pratt & Whitney R-1690-25 or Pratt & Whitney R-1830 engines.

    I'll put my money where my keyboard is, and do ALL engine variants if they are to be tackled in this interesting project.



    So be prepared Sir, for a constant bombardment of Radial din that will make you wish you'd gone for the hang-glider.

    It was on the options list, wasn't it?
    I appreciate that Nigel. The Howard 500 sounds are a little brash so I look forward to a more rewarding sound set from you.

    Quote Originally Posted by expat View Post
    Oh Man! Lockheed Twins by the Milton Shupe SOH Team. What great news!
    I hope it fills the need. My biggest concern for now is the panel and gauges.

    Quote Originally Posted by thunder100 View Post
    Milton

    Once there is an exterior model with base textures* I could,if demanded do the effects

    Thanks

    Roland

    *effects tend to interfere with textures sometimes(load order)
    I appreciate the offer Roland.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtT View Post
    Don't know if this helps. http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=2536

    Attachment 54541
    Lockheed Ventura Mk.II AJ 311 cockpit. (U.S. Air Force photo)

    Also found this link some pics from a salvage yard.

    http://calclassic.proboards.com/inde...nt&thread=3799

    I'll look for some more.
    Thank you for the research efforts. The more we have, the better the end product. Research is always the most time consuming for me so when you all expend efforts on this, I can focus on teh modeling aspects. Great appreciated!
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    Milton, Check your email. I sent you a couple of color pics of a restored Lodestar panel.
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    The search is on for flight manuals for both the Lodestar and the Harpoon. Wish me luck and any help would be much appreciated. Free works very well if one can be located. I've got .pdf flight manuals for several aircraft, just not those two.

    Milton, I have the Type Certificate Data Sheet in .pdf format for R-2800 engines if you need/want it. Not much help for the Lodestar, but the 'Poon used them.
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    The Harpoon is one airplane I've been craving. Thank you Milton!! I've been following this one closely since it was stationed at our air tanker base in the 70s and early 80s.

    http://warbirdinformationexchange.or...hp?f=3&t=38160

    Hope you can view it without registering. Some good shots of interior equipment being installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willy View Post
    The search is on for flight manuals for both the Lodestar and the Harpoon. Wish me luck and any help would be much appreciated. Free works very well if one can be located. I've got .pdf flight manuals for several aircraft, just not those two.

    Milton, I have the Type Certificate Data Sheet in .pdf format for R-2800 engines if you need/want it. Not much help for the Lodestar, but the 'Poon used them.
    Thanks Willy; that will be helpful for the flight model.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snurdley View Post
    The Harpoon is one airplane I've been craving. Thank you Milton!! I've been following this one closely since it was stationed at our air tanker base in the 70s and early 80s.

    http://warbirdinformationexchange.or...hp?f=3&t=38160

    Hope you can view it without registering. Some good shots of interior equipment being installed.
    That's a fun thread. Taigh helped tremendously with our AT-11 project as he had many pictures of one he restored.

    Thank you.
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