A Lockheed "Rounder"

***mrogers*** · December 18th, 2011, 00:58

Yes please!! I throw in my vote for both the Harpoon and the Lodestar. The Harpoon is looking good, Milton!

**nigel richards** · December 18th, 2011, 01:22

Originally Posted by Milton Shupe

So, Harpoon first, then Lodestar. Does it really matter?

I can't do this without you all helping out. Do we have a deal?

Deal!

I'm in (if you want me, that is...)!!!

For some oddball reason, I thought these ships all wore Wright R-1820's.
Not that I wouldn't do them again and again...and over again, AGAIN!!!).

Checking up, I see the Harp had R-2800's (arguably one of the finest air-cooled radials ever engineered) and the majority of Lodestars had Pratt & Whitney R-1690-25 or Pratt & Whitney R-1830 engines.

I'll put my money where my keyboard is, and do ALL engine variants if they are to be tackled in this interesting project.

So be prepared Sir, for a constant bombardment of Radial din that will make you wish you'd gone for the hang-glider.

It was on the options list, wasn't it?

***expat*** · December 18th, 2011, 01:59

Oh Man! Lockheed Twins by the Milton Shupe SOH Team. What great news!

***thunder100*** · December 18th, 2011, 04:15

Milton

Once there is an exterior model with base textures* I could,if demanded do the effects

Thanks

Roland

*effects tend to interfere with textures sometimes(load order)

***SgtT*** · December 18th, 2011, 04:47

Don't know if this helps. http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=2536

Attachment 54541
Lockheed Ventura Mk.II AJ 311 cockpit. (U.S. Air Force photo)

Also found this link some pics from a salvage yard.

http://calclassic.proboards.com/inde...nt&thread=3799

I'll look for some more.

**Milton Shupe** · December 18th, 2011, 06:30

Originally Posted by mrogers

Yes please!! I throw in my vote for both the Harpoon and the Lodestar. The Harpoon is looking good, Milton!

Thanks, the startup was made just a bit easier (I thought anyhow) by the Howard 500 shell. However, I ended up rebuilding the fuselage, empennage, wings and flaps. The engines are close and the gear is right on so that pushed me over the edge.

Originally Posted by nigel richards

Deal!

I'm in (if you want me, that is...)!!!

For some oddball reason, I thought these ships all wore Wright R-1820's.
Not that I wouldn't do them again and again...and over again, AGAIN!!!).

Checking up, I see the Harp had R-2800's (arguably one of the finest air-cooled radials ever engineered) and the majority of Lodestars had Pratt & Whitney R-1690-25 or Pratt & Whitney R-1830 engines.

I'll put my money where my keyboard is, and do ALL engine variants if they are to be tackled in this interesting project.

So be prepared Sir, for a constant bombardment of Radial din that will make you wish you'd gone for the hang-glider.

It was on the options list, wasn't it?

I appreciate that Nigel. The Howard 500 sounds are a little brash so I look forward to a more rewarding sound set from you.

Originally Posted by expat

Oh Man! Lockheed Twins by the Milton Shupe SOH Team. What great news!

I hope it fills the need. My biggest concern for now is the panel and gauges.

Originally Posted by thunder100

Milton

Once there is an exterior model with base textures* I could,if demanded do the effects

Thanks

Roland

*effects tend to interfere with textures sometimes(load order)

I appreciate the offer Roland.

Originally Posted by SgtT

Don't know if this helps. http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=2536

Attachment 54541
Lockheed Ventura Mk.II AJ 311 cockpit. (U.S. Air Force photo)

Also found this link some pics from a salvage yard.

http://calclassic.proboards.com/inde...nt&thread=3799

I'll look for some more.

Thank you for the research efforts. The more we have, the better the end product. Research is always the most time consuming for me so when you all expend efforts on this, I can focus on teh modeling aspects. Great appreciated!

***Willy*** · December 18th, 2011, 09:54

Milton, Check your email. I sent you a couple of color pics of a restored Lodestar panel.

***Willy*** · December 18th, 2011, 10:14

The search is on for flight manuals for both the Lodestar and the Harpoon. Wish me luck and any help would be much appreciated. Free works very well if one can be located. I've got .pdf flight manuals for several aircraft, just not those two.

Milton, I have the Type Certificate Data Sheet in .pdf format for R-2800 engines if you need/want it. Not much help for the Lodestar, but the 'Poon used them.

**Snurdley** · December 18th, 2011, 10:15

The Harpoon is one airplane I've been craving. Thank you Milton!! I've been following this one closely since it was stationed at our air tanker base in the 70s and early 80s.

http://warbirdinformationexchange.or...hp?f=3&t=38160

Hope you can view it without registering. Some good shots of interior equipment being installed.

**Milton Shupe** · December 18th, 2011, 10:31

Originally Posted by Willy

The search is on for flight manuals for both the Lodestar and the Harpoon. Wish me luck and any help would be much appreciated. Free works very well if one can be located. I've got .pdf flight manuals for several aircraft, just not those two.

Milton, I have the Type Certificate Data Sheet in .pdf format for R-2800 engines if you need/want it. Not much help for the Lodestar, but the 'Poon used them.

Thanks Willy; that will be helpful for the flight model.

Originally Posted by Snurdley

The Harpoon is one airplane I've been craving. Thank you Milton!! I've been following this one closely since it was stationed at our air tanker base in the 70s and early 80s.

http://warbirdinformationexchange.or...hp?f=3&t=38160

Hope you can view it without registering. Some good shots of interior equipment being installed.

That's a fun thread. Taigh helped tremendously with our AT-11 project as he had many pictures of one he restored.

Thank you.

***Willy*** · December 18th, 2011, 10:38

Jackpot on the Harpoon! I've got a 1945 Pilot's Handbook for it with tons of pics. I'll email it out shortly with the R-2800 TCDS. I know it's old business, but I've also got the Howard 500 TCDS as well. (I tend to collect this kind of stuff)

Still looking for Lodestar publications.

**Milton Shupe** · December 18th, 2011, 10:41

I keep revisiting this htail et al because the 3-view is not accurate in many ways. But with enough pictures, I continue to improve on it.

Also got the engine nacelles, tail (attached to flaps), and engine face and props in place. The exhaust ring and flaps need to be changed from the current setup.

***Willy*** · December 18th, 2011, 10:41

Gmail won't let me mail out the Pilot's Handbook as it's pretty hefty. I'll upload it here under my name.

**Milton Shupe** · December 18th, 2011, 10:43

Originally Posted by Willy

Jackpot on the Harpoon! I've got a 1945 Pilot's Handbook for it with tons of pics. I'll email it out shortly with the R-2800 TCDS. I know it's old business, but I've also got the Howard 500 TCDS as well. (I tend to collect this kind of stuff)

Still looking for Lodestar publications.

Excellent Willy! That will be very helpful.

***Willy*** · December 18th, 2011, 10:57

It was too big for Gmail, so I just uploaded it here to the Warbirds Library in FS 2004 Other under my name. I'll ask Rami to give it a quick approval.