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    Well... I think I remember reading at one point that there would be a "light cockpit model" that would be easier on framerates. Maybe that was it, but I really don't know at this point. I thought I saw an updated English version of the flight manual the other day... but turns out I was wrong about that. I did notice that in the video, the narrator was zipping the views in the VC back and forth without any noticeable frame rate hit. Since most of my VFR and all of my IFR flights are done from the 2D cockpit, I don't find any issue with the VC. I like to spend alot of time in the spot view during my flights, panning around the visual model anyway. When she's finally released, I'll fly her. Just my 2 bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird686 View Post
    Well... I think I remember reading at one point that there would be a "light cockpit model" that would be easier on framerates. Maybe that was it, but I really don't know at this point. I thought I saw an updated English version of the flight manual the other day... but turns out I was wrong about that. I did notice that in the video, the narrator was zipping the views in the VC back and forth without any noticeable frame rate hit. Since most of my VFR and all of my IFR flights are done from the 2D cockpit, I don't find any issue with the VC. I like to spend alot of time in the spot view during my flights, panning around the visual model anyway. When she's finally released, I'll fly her. Just my 2 bits.

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    There was a new manual uploaded the day after your post. You can tell you are looking at the latest by the Dassault Aviation logo on the first page. Adding logos is one of the requirements for them to release.

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    Any news about this very promising "Rafale Family" project from France ?

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    Hello,

    C'est plutôt à Alex de répondre, lui qui gère entièrement les discussions D.A/nous.

    Si j'ai bien compris Dassault nous autorise à utiliser le nom Rafale, le nom Dassault Aviation et leur logo et ce, à titre gracieux, sans rémunération, une sorte de licence.

    Ils ont quand même un droit de regard sur les produits diffusés ou qui le seraient (2000, Falcon par ex) sous couvert de cette licence, et c'est cette approbation technique sur le produit que nous attendons et non plus l'autorisation, disons, juridique.

    Le produit représente en quelque sorte la marque, même s'ils ne comptent pas sur nous pour en vendre, il faut qu'il soit proche de la réalité dans la limite que permet FS9 aussi.
    Hello,

    Rather it is to meet Alex, who manages the discussions entirely DA / us.

    If I understand Dassault allows us to use the name Rafale, Dassault Aviation's name and logo, which, without charge, without compensation, a kind of license.

    They do have a say about the products distributed or would be (2000, eg Falcon) under cover of this license, and it is this technical approval of the product that we expect and not leave, say , legal.

    The product is somehow the mark, even if they do not count on us to sell, it must be realistic within the limits allowed by FS9 too.
    Go figure ....

    Currently .. there are Dassault employees who install FS2004 on their PC ... learn to use FS2004 ... and when they will use it properly (it is going to take months ...) they will test the Rafale .. with their test pilots ....
    So ... it's not tomorrow that this "freeware" will be available for download .. and he must still receive the approval of test pilots ...
    It was in doing anything that you become anyone

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    You know the real drag there is that there have been no FS developers outside of France who have made a Rafale. So they are all within the reach of DA. The payware FSX version by Roland Laborie has been off market since last October. Even the FSX freeware Rafale M by Thor's Hammer is not longer available for exclusive download at the VFAF site. But we do have the old but continually revised version from Gator.

    Actually let me correct my earlier statement. There is a flyable Rafale in the MAIW Rafale package. Needs a panel and such but might be a starting point for someone. Plenty of textures already made for it.

    Do you think India will get their's first at this rate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsafranek View Post
    ...Do you think India will get their's first at this rate?
    Quite possibly... but I can patiently wait for this one.
    It's not every day that you get a freeware Gen 4.5 jet that is approved by the manufacturer, after flight testing by its test pilots!

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    Do you think India will get their's first at this rate?
    DA must first check the FS2004 "freeware Rafale"
    When all tests performed ... they will return on their business with India
    Each his priorities ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navtech View Post
    DA must first check the FS2004 "freeware Rafale"
    When all tests performed ... they will return on their business with India
    Each his priorities ....
    I do hope the pilots aren't confused when they go back to the real world after FS.
    The VPA Rafale is pretty system-deep so I'm sure they will appreciate the work
    that has gone into it. Hopefully their feedback will make it even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsafranek View Post
    You know the real drag there is that there have been no FS developers outside of France who have made a Rafale. So they are all within the reach of DA. The payware FSX version by Roland Laborie has been off market since last October. Even the FSX freeware Rafale M by Thor's Hammer is not longer available for exclusive download at the VFAF site. But we do have the old but continually revised version from Gator.

    Actually let me correct my earlier statement. There is a flyable Rafale in the MAIW Rafale package. Needs a panel and such but might be a starting point for someone. Plenty of textures already made for it.

    Do you think India will get their's first at this rate?
    Gator's Rafale is still an excellent flyer for FS9 and with all the mods and updates out there for it -- as far as I'm concerned, it's going to be around for a long time to come. Lots of repaints for it too, and I did a nav-light mod for the Rafale a while back, just changed the looks of the lights a bit. I think it enhances the appearance of the jet alot, especially the black "Rafale C" variant. It's available over at Mirage for Flight Simulator. There are also numerous afterburner effects for this little gem.

    As far as the VPA Rafale... we could be in for a long wait before it's released... if at all. I really can't fathom any reasons why Dassault is putting so much emphasis on a freeware model. Now if this were a payware model, and VPA stood to make a considerable amount of cash from it's sale.. that would be different, (maybe). I think that Dassault should pay the VPA Group a royalty, just for letting their test pilots put their hands on the "freeware" VPA Rafale. LOL!

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    A first in France. First female officer pilot on Rafale.
    Capitaine Merouze.

    http://rafalenews.blogspot.com/2012/...le-rafale.html

    A few years ago then "Lieutnant" Merouze was on basic training on Grob at Cognac Air Base
    and was selected for fighter training on Alphajet at the Tours Air base "École de Chasse".

    You will recognise officer Merouze here on this six episodes french TV report called
    "Femmes Pilotes de Chasse" ( Women Fighter Pilots ) available here :

    1.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

    2.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

    3.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

    4.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

    5.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech

    6.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9u...du-reve-a_tech


    Capitaine Merouze reach now her ultimate dream : Rafale pilot !
    Bravo ! Well Done !

    VaporZ

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    Any word on this??? It's been pretty quiet lately.

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    Any word on this??? It's been pretty quiet lately.
    Words about what has .. it's been so long that I forgot
    Dassault also probably

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navtech View Post
    Words about what has .. it's been so long that I forgot
    Dassault also probably
    Hopefully this project didn't slip between our fingers, and it's a lost cause to keep chasing it. There were quite the lot of us who wanted to fly the new Rafale.... In the meantime... Cyril's Rafale is getting lots of attention from my virtual pilot crews.


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    Here is a french message from one member of the VPA Rafale Team put today on their website :

    Hello!!

    ENFIN!! Une bonne nouvelle, comme vous, on commençait à désespérer.

    Le temps que va mettre MBDA pour suivre le pas de Dassault (vu que leurs armements ne sont pas opérationnels sur FS9) sera mis
    à profit pour qu'on se remette en selle et faire coucher ensemble tout ce que chacun a fait de son côté depuis le début de l'année.

    La dispo? ça sera ce mois-ci. Quand? Plutôt vers la fin du mois. Plus de précisions bientôt.

    Un grand bravo à Alex pour le super boulot !

    Free short translation in english :

    Availability of this Freeware Rafale for FS9 : This month of April !
    Probably the last week of April 2012 !

    Lets hope and pray !

    VaporZ

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