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  1. #2026
    And I'm waiting for panel, gauges, and textures.
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  2. #2027
    I had revamped the S2T flight dynamics but haven't transferred them over to the fire fighting version as yet. Need to get to that soon...

    T

  3. #2028
    Quote Originally Posted by fliger747 View Post
    I had revamped the S2T flight dynamics but haven't transferred them over to the fire fighting version as yet. Need to get to that soon...

    T

    Thanks Tom; I appreciate that.
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    In the maen time...

    ...it's FOOTBALL season all over again! More previews coming...well you know, s...!

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    That looks great! Looking forward to this one Duckie!
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  6. #2031
    Quote Originally Posted by Duckie View Post
    ...it's FOOTBALL season all over again! More previews coming...well you know, s...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckie View Post
    ...it's FOOTBALL season all over again! More previews coming...well you know, s...!

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    Awesome Duckie!

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  9. #2034
    Wow! You take advantage of every little nook and cranny don't ya! :-) Once you darken that up, she will look very realistic.
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  10. #2035
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    Looking good Duckie!!

  11. #2036

    Bridle

    At the risk of sounding really ungreatful for all of Milton's (et all) wonderful work, I have realized that there is one additional item that would certainly be the "frosting on the cake". A great many of us fly these superb aircraft in their natural element - off the carrier. Whether you are using it with a static carrier in Fs9, or a moving one in FSX, you will use one of the catapult functions (3-wire, Acceleration etc.) to catapult back into the air. The C-1A/E-1B/S-2E did not use a launch bar (hadn't been invented yet), they had a "bridle" that was attached by the Cat crew at mid fuselage and extended forward to the shuttle in the catapult. RazBam, Skippy Bing etc. are now incorporating a Bridle into their appropriate aircraft. It appears under the aircraft (it's in the .mdl) when the holdback function is selected (normally when setting the brake in Fs9, or selecting shift + L in FSX). It makes the aircraft look extremely realistic while awaiting the Cat shot. The bridle disappears as soon as the launch key combination is selected (Milton: I'm sure you already know all of this). Is it too late to consider a bridle - or was it previously considered and rejected? I certainly won't be disappointed with this beautiful set of aircraft if the answer is no, but I just felt I should bring it up (albeit VERY late). Bill

  12. #2037
    Thanks for that input. Frankly, I have never heard of the bridle, and of all the pictures I have and scoured, I do not recall seeing it. Interesting.
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  13. #2038
    Hi Milton, Check out the first of these slides (and one other): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqNc80bO-A The bridle is the cable that you see under the S-2. I'll see if I can find better. Bill

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    Here ya go.

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  15. #2040
    Thanks Duckie. That's the first time I have seen this not being a Navy guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    Thanks Duckie. That's the first time I have seen this not being a Navy guy.
    Your welcome. The bridal is what attaches the aircraft to the catapult shuttle and slings it off the deck! 0 to 120 in under 3 seconds! That will out drag a Chevrolet!

    This one appears to have just been shot! Notice the prop tip condensation "cork screw" forming aft if the prop.
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  17. #2042
    Duckie, I don't think it's been shot as the hold-back link is still in place. But he is reving up in anticipation, though!

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  18. #2043
    That is an awesome picture. I wonder if there are any YouTube videos of this action from a similar vantage point.

    And, have you seen any pictures or drawings of the bridle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye52 View Post
    Duckie, I don't think it's been shot as the hold-back link is still in place. But he is reving up in anticipation, though!

    - H52

    You're right H52, the hold-back is still holding! I guess the corkscrew is from the ship making knots! That copilot is hanging on too.

    BTW, the gear wells for the -1 are all done.

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  20. #2045
    Wow! That looks amazing!
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  21. #2046
    Duckie, that looks awesome!!

    Cheers,
    Maarten

  22. #2047
    Awesome work, Duckie! The "-1" is comming along nicely!

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  23. #2048
    Duckie: Wonderful shot of the bridle. Thanks. Do you have, or does anyone know, if the NATOPS manual for either the C-1A, E-1B (WF-1) or S-2E happens to have an illustration of the bridle? I'm sensing that Milton is getting interested - but we need to give him better data if we are going to get a bridle for these aircraft. Anyone???

    Milton: I have looked at MANY Youtubes for better bridle shots, but so far without success. I haven't given up, but the best option is some official documentation.


    Bill

  24. #2049
    Well, I am interested in its operation. However, I see no animation tags or mention of it in the FS9 Makemdl animation parts list so modeling one would be an issue for me.
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  25. #2050
    Hi there,

    I checked the NATOPS Flight Manuals for the E-1B, the S-2A/B/C/F, and the S-2D/E. In neither of them I saw an illustration of the bridle. Sorry guys.
    Maybe it can can be found in a maintenance manual, but I don't have those, at least not for these aircraft.

    Cheers,
    Maarten

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