SOH Team Project - Grumman Tracker, Trader, Tracer

**Matt Wynn** · August 14th, 2011, 16:39

Huges and Euro, what i can do is make the paintkit in 2048*2048 initially then rescale for FS9, that way layout of panel lines et al. stays the same and saves further work on the FSX Conversion....

**Milton Shupe** · August 14th, 2011, 16:44

Originally Posted by Smoothie

wow and a thanks from me Doug! any chance you can zip 'em up and shoot them in an e-mail (or two) to me for paintkit creation usage when the time comes?
:salute:

Matt, can you not just right click on the opened pictures and save?

Originally Posted by Hughes-MDflyer4

Milton, I'll be working with euroastar350 on the FSX conversion since we both work together on projects. Since he informed me about this project, I was able to get some photos of the landing gear as well as the gear bay when I visited a retired aircraft carrier a few days ago. Got a few snaps of the engine as well, but probably not exactly what you need. He should be sending them to you shortly. Cheers. :ernae:

By the way, the modeling work so far looks fantastic!

Sounds great! Thanks

Originally Posted by Smoothie

Huges and Euro, what i can do is make the paintkit in 2048*2048 initially then rescale for FS9, that way layout of panel lines et al. stays the same and saves further work on the FSX Conversion....

Great idea Matt!

**Hughes-MDflyer4** · August 14th, 2011, 17:34

Originally Posted by Smoothie

Huges and Euro, what i can do is make the paintkit in 2048*2048 initially then rescale for FS9, that way layout of panel lines et al. stays the same and saves further work on the FSX Conversion....

That would be great, thanks! :salute:

**Fnerg** · August 14th, 2011, 17:37

Milton are there any points on the aircraft you need shots for reference?

Smoothie, have you tried Airliners.net? A great source for aircraft photos.

Cheers
Doug

**Matt Wynn** · August 14th, 2011, 17:47

all Dougs images saved..... back to my other project for a short while....

**Cag40Navy** · August 14th, 2011, 19:07

Nigel, will your sounds work in FSX? just wondering.

**Milton Shupe** · August 14th, 2011, 19:36

Originally Posted by Fnerg

Milton are there any points on the aircraft you need shots for reference?

Smoothie, have you tried Airliners.net? A great source for aircraft photos.

Cheers
Doug

Doug, I have 100's of pics at the moment. I think I have all I need for the exterior. Interior pics of floors, sidewalls, back panels, etc. are always welcome.

EDIT: Flaps in various deployment degrees, under-wing view of flaps deployed; a great side view of the wheels (exactly perpendicular and not marred by shadows) would be great for a texture.

Originally Posted by Smoothie

all Dougs images saved..... back to my other project for a short while....

Matt, I will upload many pictures for you when it is time.

**Matt Wynn** · August 14th, 2011, 20:04

CAG if i recall Nigel recently got FSX so he'll no doubt be able to sort things on that front also.... if i know him like i do then yup he'll do it....

**Hughes-MDflyer4** · August 14th, 2011, 20:58

If the sounds don't work in FSX from the start, by the time George and I finish the FSX conversion of the model, they will.

**euroastar350** · August 14th, 2011, 21:36

Originally Posted by Smoothie

Huges and Euro, what i can do is make the paintkit in 2048*2048 initially then rescale for FS9, that way layout of panel lines et al. stays the same and saves further work on the FSX Conversion....

Sounds great mate:ernae:

**Milton Shupe** · August 15th, 2011, 08:31

Sunday morning focus was on animations and testing of the rudder, rudder trim, elevator and trim tabs. These are ooking great now.

Sunday afternoon and evening spent on cutting in the tail hook and wheel to the rear of the fuselage. Tailwheel is actually for the Tracker. I wanted to do that one first as the shape is a bit better for the fuselage cut. Today I will put the E-1B tailwheel in this model and save the one shown for the Tracker.

I am awaiting some drawings to complete the side windows placement and some minor sizing verifications.

Today's focus will be on tweaking the flaps and ailerons shape and finalizing animations.

**Milton Shupe** · August 15th, 2011, 12:06

Okay, finally have the E-1B tailwheel in place and saved the other for the Tracker.

**Milton Shupe** · August 15th, 2011, 18:34

Thanks to some great feedback, I changed the tail hook shoe to better match reality.
Got some tweaking yet to do.

Attachment 46046

**nigel richards** · August 15th, 2011, 23:27

:salute:Cag, Smoothie's right about the sounds...coming to grips with X, so "yup he'll do it.... "

I wish I could get some genuine flaps and retrack sounds for this one...sure be worth it!

Offers anyone?

**Milton Shupe** · August 16th, 2011, 15:22

I know that all the little details that are worked on do not show but many hours are involved in them before more visible progress can be made.

So far today, I have focused on lights on the vstabs, and doing serious reconstruction underneath the wings for the flaps and aileron interfaces. Unfortunately, the work there does not show up on an untextured aircraft in this test. :/

I am trying to complete as much as possible on the fuselage, wings, control surfaces and empennage before moving on to the gear.

**Maarten -** · August 16th, 2011, 23:20

Milton,

You're doing an absolutely amazing job again! For such an odd airplane she looks outstanding.

Cheers,
Maarten

**tankerguy72** · August 17th, 2011, 02:06

Cant wait for this to be finished!!! I grew up with S-2A's Operated by the CDF. I used to love how it would rattle your brain when it flew over the fence. I just loaded a video i edited up from a friend who recorded them at Hemet. Turn up your Volume and hold on to your seat!!!

http://youtu.be/P9i9nIRyAe8

**Milton Shupe** · August 17th, 2011, 05:16

Originally Posted by Maarten

Milton,

You're doing an absolutely amazing job again! For such an odd airplane she looks outstanding.

Cheers,
Maarten

Thank you Maarten; I appreciate that.

Originally Posted by tankerguy72

Cant wait for this to be finished!!! I grew up with S-2A's Operated by the CDF. I used to love how it would rattle your brain when it flew over the fence. I just loaded a video i edited up from a friend who recorded them at Hemet. Turn up your Volume and hold on to your seat!!!

http://youtu.be/P9i9nIRyAe8

Great video and sounds. Thanks for sharing.

**nigel richards** · August 18th, 2011, 07:34

Originally Posted by tankerguy72

Cant wait for this to be finished!!! I grew up with S-2A's Operated by the CDF. I used to love how it would rattle your brain when it flew over the fence. I just loaded a video i edited up from a friend who recorded them at Hemet. Turn up your Volume and hold on to your seat!!!

http://youtu.be/P9i9nIRyAe8

:salute: VERRRY nice quality sounds T! Great input towards the soundset.

Its almost taken me back to scratch, but absolutely worth it.

Thanks.

**tankerguy72** · August 18th, 2011, 11:07

I have more if you need it. I took some video of start up and them taxiing around and another of it flying by on departure.

I also have ALOT of photos inside and out of the CDF version.

**Milton Shupe** · August 19th, 2011, 09:48

A little break in the action to accommodate other needs.

**mgr** · August 19th, 2011, 10:37

Milton,

It's already looking great, great progress

About the tailhook, notice in extend position it's (well) below the main gear, see the picture below:

Attachment 46330

Keep up the works!

Marcel

**stansdds** · August 19th, 2011, 16:15

Originally Posted by Milton Shupe

A little break in the action to accommodate other needs.

I was just about to

this thread.

**Milton Shupe** · August 19th, 2011, 20:58

Thanks guys. I am back on it for a bit, working on the wing slot, tweaking control surfaces, and now the spoilers. These wings have a lot of things going on; quite the engineering spectacle. :mixedsmi:

**robcap** · August 20th, 2011, 01:43

Originally Posted by Milton Shupe

Hi Rob, Are you interested in doing the interior model?

I'm having trouble with my right eye, so my PC time is limited. You know how tirsome modelling can be. So I'm sorry, but Imust pass for the near future. It's a fantastic project, and I'd love to help you out, but not right now.

Cheers, Rob