Thread: SOH Team Project - Grumman Tracker, Trader, Tracer

  1. #376
    Invested all day yesterday just mapping interior parts; now done.

    Ready for a pilot, and then a good thorough review for "what's left to be added" on the outside and inside before optimizing.

    She's got a few more items to send to the paint shop so will get that done today as well.

    Here's a few shots after adding specular shine; just had to add one without the "coat of many colors".

    All textures and gauges are temporary.
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    External textures now being filthied up

    looking great Milton, can't wait to fly the thing now! (yes i know i could, but not as a complete package )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    Jan,

    I think so ... may have to add a helmet for the Navy boys though. I'll have a look.
    http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...n+tracker&aq=f

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothie View Post
    External textures now being filthied up
    Good to hear, I'm getting the base scheme down and it looks too clean

    Attachment 48408Attachment 48409

    And sorry for the X shots, easier to work with when the texture pack is 2048


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    That's looking awesome guys.

    I need to send to you the model updates with the specular highlights to add some realism as well.

    I'll package it, upload it, and send you a link shortly.

    EDIT: The package was small, so I emailed to you Smoothie. Please share with simkid22.
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    Thanks Milton, and on behalf of myself and Nick, thank you for granting us this opportunity to work on the thing!

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    That's superb Milton ! and congratulations to the team.
    May I ask you your settings for the materials to have such reflective effect?
    I experimented several settings.
    as an example, for ambient, I have R 70 B 70 and G 70 ; diffuse same and Specular level 40 and Glossiness 100. Specular is almost white with RGB at 229.

    it's always tricky as some planes and specially military aircrafts, which doesn't have to be shiny by definition... (sometimes)

    Cheers
    Pierre

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rep View Post
    That's superb Milton ! and congratulations to the team.
    May I ask you your settings for the materials to have such reflective effect?
    I experimented several settings.
    as an example, for ambient, I have R 70 B 70 and G 70 ; diffuse same and Specular level 40 and Glossiness 100. Specular is almost white with RGB at 229.

    it's always tricky as some planes and specially military aircrafts, which doesn't have to be shiny by definition... (sometimes)

    Cheers
    Pierre
    Pierre,

    Thank you. Sounds like you are modeling for FSX which is quite different. Only diffuse maps available and no spec/bump/gloss maps in FS9.
    For FS9, I simply use a specular value of 35-37 for most major body parts, 50 for the chrome spinners. I use none on the tires but sometimes on the wheels, depending.
    The higher values "tighten up" the "glare" so not as wide-spread over the flatter surfaces, but the glare is more intense.

    You can add a color for use on the specular but sometimes that gets in the way of some paint schemes.
    Milton
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    We used to have an S2, in private hands, parked at the airport her in Fairbanks, now it resides at the owners private strip. My recollection of it, in it's original Navy paint, was of a pretty smooth paint job, if not Imron slick. Some fading as one might expect from a plane sitting outside in a hostile climate for years.

    Still Putzing along with the flight dynamics. As always, one thing changes another, so finer adjustment of engine power settings, HP and drag continues.

    Cheers: T

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    Quote Originally Posted by fliger747 View Post
    We used to have an S2, in private hands, parked at the airport her in Fairbanks, now it resides at the owners private strip. My recollection of it, in it's original Navy paint, was of a pretty smooth paint job, if not Imron slick. Some fading as one might expect from a plane sitting outside in a hostile climate for years.

    Still Putzing along with the flight dynamics. As always, one thing changes another, so finer adjustment of engine power settings, HP and drag continues.

    Cheers: T
    Thank you Tom for your excellent results to-date. The FM is coming along nicely.

    Some specular lighting, even on dull paint, is necessary. Even old tires have a reaction to the sun's glare. Not to be confused with glossiness, the sun's glare is everywhere, even on roads.
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    Navy Pilot/Co-Pilot

    Does anyone have gmax source for a Navy Pilot and Copilot for the 60's era that they would like to donate to the project?

    Otherwise, I will try to convert Jan's Army/AF pilot to better suit the Navy aircraft.
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    I cannot provide an aircrew figure but I do recall that bright orange flight suits were in use back in the 60's. RGB of 255/132/72 looks about right on my monitor. They'd be worn by crews who operated over water or non-hostile territory where visibility was more important than camouflage if your plane went down.

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    Milton,

    can I get a copy of the revised gmax source so I can update my files?

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    Hi Milton,

    I found this link to an article on the R-1820 with photos of a scale model of the 1,525 hp H-series Cyclone (as used in a.o. the Stoof (with and without roof)).

    I don't know if it is of any use for you, by nevertheless I did not want to withold it from you.

    http://www.modellclub.lu/cms/sites/m...one9_v12-1.pdf

    Cheers,
    Maarten

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    Looks great!!!!!
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