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  1. #401
    Amazing work Milton! Better than most payware!!!:salute:

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  2. #402
    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    But of course it simply would not be right to release this fine model until the F7F is finished, Right!!
    LOL Terry. I finished my phases of that project as promised, as did others, and went way beyond with a temporary VC.

    The VC side and the FSX side is planned to be done by N2056 once he completes the P-61 on the FSX side.
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  3. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by tankerguy72 View Post
    Amazing work Milton! Better than most payware!!!:salute:

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    It may be a bit premature to call it good since the flight model, sounds, paint kit, panel and gauges are not here yet.

    Your textures look nice. Thanks for all the pictures and input you provided; greatly appreciated.
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  4. #404

    S2F-3 Progress

    Invested this afternoon in updating and building the stoof.

    The wing fold angles are now better, wing hinges built and animated.

    Simkid22 volunteered to take on the interior textures so here are some of the things he must ... take on.

    EDIT: BTW, you might notice the nacelle sonobouy area is actually the early setup. I will likely change that to accommodate the larger capacity storage of the -3 nacelle. This nacelle works for the earlier developed "hawkbill" or "Parrot beak" versions the Japanese and Canadians used.
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  5. #405
    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    It may be a bit premature to call it good since the flight model, sounds, paint kit, panel and gauges are not here yet.

    Your textures look nice. Thanks for all the pictures and input you provided; greatly appreciated.
    I know but I meant your attention to detail on the exterior and interior modeling! Its amazing

  6. #406
    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    ...here are some of the things he must ... take on.
    Well when you put it like that it sounds like I made a bad decision
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  7. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by simkid22 View Post
    Well when you put it like that it sounds like I made a bad decision
    LOL No need to worry; it's all quite simple, I assure you.

    Spent the day working on the S2F-3.

    Lots of hours invested in making the pilot/copilot windows larger, and improving on the window curvatures.
    This also involved reshaping the interior cockpit and fuselage around those larger windows; a real pain.
    Also, removed the lower windows on the sides and added the proper higher windows up just ahead of the wings.
    Adjusted the MAD boom shape.
    Textured the wing fold joints to compliment the hinges.
    Reshaped the nacelles tails to accommodate a proper sonobouy load for the -3.
    Had to remap the fuselage and nacelles after the changes.
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  8. #408
    I am an avid watch collector and have been accused several times of looking at my watch and then not being able to tell you what time it is. I get so caught up in the intricaite design details that i don't pay attention to what the hands say. I feel the same way when I look at one of your designs, Milton. every time you put up a new set of progress pix, I go over them again and again just staring at the beauty of your work.

    Come to thing of it, I often do the same thing everytime I fire up one of your finished designs. It takes a long time to get around to making it to the runway, and once airborne, I spend most of the time outside oogling the awesome fruits of your labor. Once I finally make it into the cockpit, I have the same "problem" looking at all the bits and peices surrounding me. All I can say is thank goodness for the autopilot. Otherwise I'd crash a lot more often than I do.

    All of your creations occupy my primary hanger, just a click away from the tarmac. I can't wait to get these babies out and about.

    If I haven't said it before, Thank you so very much for sharing your passion with us mere mortals. Okay, that was over the top, but you do get my meaning.
    Racartron
    it means something, but I just can't remember what

  9. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by racartron View Post
    I am an avid watch collector and have been accused several times of looking at my watch and then not being able to tell you what time it is. I get so caught up in the intricaite design details that i don't pay attention to what the hands say. I feel the same way when I look at one of your designs, Milton. every time you put up a new set of progress pix, I go over them again and again just staring at the beauty of your work.

    Come to thing of it, I often do the same thing everytime I fire up one of your finished designs. It takes a long time to get around to making it to the runway, and once airborne, I spend most of the time outside oogling the awesome fruits of your labor. Once I finally make it into the cockpit, I have the same "problem" looking at all the bits and peices surrounding me. All I can say is thank goodness for the autopilot. Otherwise I'd crash a lot more often than I do.

    All of your creations occupy my primary hanger, just a click away from the tarmac. I can't wait to get these babies out and about.

    If I haven't said it before, Thank you so very much for sharing your passion with us mere mortals. Okay, that was over the top, but you do get my meaning.
    LOL Thank you sir.

    I will expect that you will provide lighting options the day after release.
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  10. #410
    In my best Alaskan accent: You Betcha! Gosh Darn it.
    Racartron
    it means something, but I just can't remember what

  11. #411
    In Alaska we have lovely accents from all over. On the flight to Fairbanks the other day I sat next to a very beautiful lady originating from Sahth-Kara-line-ah who was just returning from Charleston.

    Not everyone in California sounds like Arnold either.... T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    LOL No need to worry; it's all quite simple, I assure you.

    Spent the day working on the S2F-3.

    Lots of hours invested in making the pilot/copilot windows larger, and improving on the window curvatures.
    This also involved reshaping the interior cockpit and fuselage around those larger windows; a real pain.
    Also, removed the lower windows on the sides and added the proper higher windows up just ahead of the wings.
    Adjusted the MAD boom shape.
    Textured the wing fold joints to compliment the hinges.
    Reshaped the nacelles tails to accommodate a proper sonobouy load for the -3.
    Had to remap the fuselage and nacelles after the changes.
    Only one thing I can say looking at the latest development pics...

    Milton Shupe!!!
    Most men often say what they think!
    An honest man usually means what he says!
    A gentleman always says what he means!

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  13. #413
    Quote Originally Posted by fliger747 View Post
    In Alaska we have lovely accents from all over. On the flight to Fairbanks the other day I sat next to a very beautiful lady originating from Sahth-Kara-line-ah who was just returning from Charleston.

    Not everyone in California sounds like Arnold either.... T
    Accents are a funny thing. I live in Georgia so we have some really "drawn out" conversations. Also, I have a good friend from Ireland with a real Irish brogue, but still understandable. That is until he goes back home for a couple weeks. Upon his return it takes about two weeks before any of us can understand anything he says. He can't figure out why we just stare at him when he talks.
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    it means something, but I just can't remember what

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    Quote Originally Posted by racartron View Post
    Accents are a funny thing. I live in Georgia so we have some really "drawn out" conversations. Also, I have a good friend from Ireland with a real Irish brogue, but still understandable. That is until he goes back home for a couple weeks. Upon his return it takes about two weeks before any of us can understand anything he says. He can't figure out why we just stare at him when he talks.
    Phil; good to see you aboard, buddy!

    ...just wait till Smoothie and I get going with our Greek accents
    Most men often say what they think!
    An honest man usually means what he says!
    A gentleman always says what he means!

    "Αίεν Υψικρατείν "

    A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)

  15. #415
    Talking about accents. This Dutchman visits Norn Iron (some call it Northern Ireland) quite often. There I heard this prank call of the wee girl in Dublin calling a demolition firm in Newry (Norn Iron). Brilliant craic so it is.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Aijz6CNsHHc

    Cheers,
    Maarten

  16. #416
    Looking good, Milton and team.
    Can't wait till it's finished and ready to download.:salute:
    JohnH_049


  17. #417
    Quote Originally Posted by johnh_049 View Post
    Looking good, Milton and team.
    Can't wait till it's finished and ready to download.:salute:
    Thank you John; we are making great progress and hopefully it will start coming together quickly.

    Meanwhile, I am working on the S2F-3 (S-2G/E) and have a question for anyone familiar with this model.

    None of my drawings or pictures of this model show a side door when a bomb bay is in place.
    Can anyone verify that?
    I have pictures of quite a few S2F-3's that do not show bomb bay doors and they have an entrance door on the starboard side just under the wing.
    Yet when bomb bay doors are present, I see no entrance door.
    Any insight appreciated.

    I have removed the port side door, added the hstab antenna, added the big round belly radar, and put in the bomb bay doors today.
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  18. #418
    Quote Originally Posted by Milton Shupe View Post
    Thank you John; we are making great progress and hopefully it will start coming together quickly.

    Meanwhile, I am working on the S2F-3 (S-2G/E) and have a question for anyone familiar with this model.

    None of my drawings or pictures of this model show a side door when a bomb bay is in place.
    Can anyone verify that?
    I have pictures of quite a few S2F-3's that do not show bomb bay doors and they have an entrance door on the starboard side just under the wing.
    Yet when bomb bay doors are present, I see no entrance door.
    Any insight appreciated.

    I have removed the port side door, added the hstab antenna, added the big round belly radar, and put in the bomb bay doors today.
    Milton,

    The entrance door was on the starbord side under the wing. This always in place as was the bomb bay. Also, I noticed in your pictures that your wing tips are the blunt tps for the earlier and COD versions. The wingtips on the S2F3 (S-2D,E,and G) were completely rounded housing 2 Elint antennae in each tip. This accounted for the increase in wingspan on the later variants. The elint antennae were part of the ECM system that replaced the over cockpit radome prevalent on the S2F-1 (S-2A) The "dust bin" radome was extendable in flight. Thought you'd want to know that. I've attached a few "differences" drawings to illustrate.

    Dave

  19. #419
    Thank you. I do have those drawings but needed clarification because some of the pictures I could not see the door.

    I have elongated the wing tips and horizontal stabilizer. I just haven't gotten around to removing the old lights, nor adding the antennas.

    I will add the door to the starboard side with your clarification.

    Yes, I did read the manual regarding the belly radome and how it was managed.

    Also, some of this model has a smaller looking radome behind the large one but I cannot find clarification on how that was used, if it extended/retracted, or what. Most of the pictures I have do not show this but instead other antenna types, or something. The 3-views I have are not much help here.

    Thanks for your help.
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  20. #420
    Quote Originally Posted by p3aewguy View Post
    Milton,

    The entrance door was on the starbord side under the wing. This always in place as was the bomb bay. Also, I noticed in your pictures that your wing tips are the blunt tps for the earlier and COD versions. The wingtips on the S2F3 (S-2D,E,and G) were completely rounded housing 2 Elint antennae in each tip. This accounted for the increase in wingspan on the later variants. The elint antennae were part of the ECM system that replaced the over cockpit radome prevalent on the S2F-1 (S-2A) The "dust bin" radome was extendable in flight. Thought you'd want to know that. I've attached a few "differences" drawings to illustrate.

    Dave
    I agree with p3aewguy's info. However, in the side view of the S2F-3/S-2E he is uncertain about a crew window on the Port side. I can vouch that there is indeed a window there, in fact on both the Port and Starboard sides.

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  21. #421
    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye52 View Post
    I agree with p3aewguy's info. However, in the side view of the S2F-3/S-2E he is uncertain about a crew window on the Port side. I can vouch that there is indeed a window there, in fact on both the Port and Starboard sides.

    - H52
    Yes, I have pictures that show windows on both sides and they are now in place on this version.

    Thanks
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  22. #422
    Quote Originally Posted by fliger747 View Post
    Not everyone in California sounds like Arnold either.... T
    Nah, some of 'em sound like Moon Zappa!

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  23. #423

    Warning Bands on Navy props

    From Mil Std 2161A (AS), page 39, Section 5.2.2.10.3.5

    Attachment 48709

    White band = 3" wide
    Red band = 6" wide
    White band = 3" wide

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  24. #424
    Heres a picture with the side door for ya :salute:

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  25. #425
    Quote Originally Posted by tankerguy72 View Post
    Heres a picture with the side door for ya :salute:

    Attachment 48717
    Well, I am glad you posted that picture as it demonstrates why I question the door and the bomb doors.
    Compare its belly to the picture I posted and see if you think there could be a door on either side with these bomb bay doors.
    The door would open into an open bomb bay would it not? Could there be a door there with bomb racks on the wall?
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