SOH Team Project - Grumman Tracker, Trader, Tracer

[hae5904]

Milton, not a big deal, but this EC-1A had the same cabin windows as the C-1.



Cheers,
Hank

[Milton Shupe]

Milton, not a big deal, but this EC-1A had the same cabin windows as the C-1.



Cheers,
Hank

Cool :-) Nice picture too. If I attempt to change the model to do those windows, then of course the mapping will be affected and the E-1B paint kit will no longer apply. Now we are looking at some work that at this point I would rather not get into.

[hae5904]

Well you can leave it as it is?? Besides, there has only been ONE such plane ever converted.
More interesting, paint like wise, is to take old E-1B airframes, remove the radome, and throw them on the civilian market as cargo haulers.
That would give a lot of repaints.

I always wondered, both the Tracker and Trader found a way on the civi market, why didn't the Tracers??
A lot of them are still stored.......

Cheers,
Hank

[Milton Shupe]

Hank,

Yes, I will leave as is. Mapping changes really complicate matters and I do not want to invest the time (with the Harpoon, Dash 7, and Avia 57 proojects in progress) to divert 1-2 weeks for that change. Plus you would need another paint kit.

[hae5904]

Thanks Milton, as that is the most logical solution, one that makes perfectly sense !

Cheers,
Hank

[p3aewguy]

Hey Guys,
While researching for another repaint I found a better picture of the lower nose area of the VS-23 S-2E that I had painted, I didn't carry the stripes far enough on the bottom. This texture fixes that. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Dave

[p3aewguy]

Anyone have a fix for the E-1B shaking with the parking brakes set? The EC-1A does this also. The S2F-3 doesn't do this at all!

Dave

[Milton Shupe]

Anyone have a fix for the E-1B shaking with the parking brakes set? The EC-1A does this also. The S2F-3 doesn't do this at all!

Dave

Actually there is nothing wrong here. Let me demonstrate.

Stand here in front of me.
Now I hang 2 900 lb engines, one on each arm.
Each engine has 1820 cubic inches and the 9 pistons in each engine develop 169.4 HP.
Now let's start those engines.
With 18 cylinders hanging there developing 3050 supercharged horse power,
Let me know when you start shaking. :-)


In all seriousness, I would be surprised if the aircraft do not shake abit with both engines running; probably more realistic.
But, the way I have the suspension setup with 75% of the available compression used sitting static, this causes a bit of that, especially if throttles are not at idle with brakes on.
This causes the sim to think that the suspension is well compressed (which it is) because I believe in lots of hanging gear on approach (as in the RW).
It also varies with scenery or type of runway.
It can also be caused by a low yaw MOI but that is not necessarily the case here.
Another cause can be CoG is way off; not the case here as both are well within the aircrafts' limits (actual CoG is 23% and 26% for these two models).
Another possible cause could be the rear bumper gear is a liitle lower on one than the other.

At any rate, it is barely noticeable here, but I like it that way.

If it's dancing for you or causing a crash, then that is a problem.

[Duckie]

Anyone have a fix for the E-1B shaking with the parking brakes set? The EC-1A does this also. The S2F-3 doesn't do this at all!

Dave

Like Milton says, lots of stuff going on under the hood! Heck, I start shaking when those twin rads get fired up. My S2s and E-1s all shake just enough so you could tell. Once they both smooth out and I release brakes at ground idle the shaking stops.

[p3aewguy]

Okay, Thanks Milton and Duckie!

Dave

[Sascha66]

How does this look (apologies to Duckie for temporarily using his textures).

This is the E-1B without the radome and with C-1A antenna rigging added.

Now, anyone volunteer a paint scheme?

Hi Milton,

I haven't painted in some time, but this gets me itchy! Can you please send it to me too? I would like to try my hand at a fictional cargo hauler ...

[p3aewguy]

Been playin' in the paintshop again. Not too pleased with the sea serpent, but there are no decent pics of it. I had to guess a lot. Let me know what you think...

Dave

[Milton Shupe]

Hi Milton,

I haven't painted in some time, but this gets me itchy! Can you please send it to me too? I would like to try my hand at a fictional cargo hauler ...

Thanks Sascha66; you bet :-) Check your PMs.

[Milton Shupe]

Been playin' in the paintshop again. Not too pleased with the sea serpent, but there are no decent pics of it. I had to guess a lot. Let me know what you think...

Dave

LOL Well, I think I luv it!

[tankerguy72]

How does this look (apologies to Duckie for temporarily using his textures).

This is the E-1B without the radome and with C-1A antenna rigging added.

Now, anyone volunteer a paint scheme?

Wow That is one sharp looking aircraft!