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**Milton Shupe** · September 20th, 2011, 20:18

Originally Posted by hawkeye52

I agree with p3aewguy's info. However, in the side view of the S2F-3/S-2E he is uncertain about a crew window on the Port side. I can vouch that there is indeed a window there, in fact on both the Port and Starboard sides.

- H52

Yes, I have pictures that show windows on both sides and they are now in place on this version.

Thanks

***Tom Clayton*** · September 20th, 2011, 20:41

Originally Posted by fliger747

Not everyone in California sounds like Arnold either.... T

Nah, some of 'em sound like Moon Zappa!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=489pO9q8guA

***hawkeye52*** · September 20th, 2011, 21:18

From Mil Std 2161A (AS), page 39, Section 5.2.2.10.3.5

Attachment 48709

White band = 3" wide
Red band = 6" wide
White band = 3" wide

- H52

**tankerguy72** · September 21st, 2011, 00:59

Heres a picture with the side door for ya

Attachment 48717

**Milton Shupe** · September 21st, 2011, 06:32

Originally Posted by tankerguy72

Heres a picture with the side door for ya

Attachment 48717

Well, I am glad you posted that picture as it demonstrates why I question the door and the bomb doors.
Compare its belly to the picture I posted and see if you think there could be a door on either side with these bomb bay doors.
The door would open into an open bomb bay would it not? Could there be a door there with bomb racks on the wall?

***johndetrick*** · September 21st, 2011, 07:18

I believe that the bomb bay is asymmetric, on the port side only.

**Milton Shupe** · September 21st, 2011, 07:39

Originally Posted by johndetrick

I believe that the bomb bay is asymmetric, on the port side only.

Well now, that is certainly a possibility.

But then I am confused about this drawing.

***johndetrick*** · September 21st, 2011, 08:06

I think you may have got hold of a drawing that is incorrect. Everything I see indicates that the bomb bay was on the left side only.

http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2010/08/stoof.html

**Milton Shupe** · September 21st, 2011, 08:29

John, John, John, you are the man.

Excellent! Now that I built the bomb bay doors two times, it seems that, for sure, three times will be the charm.

BTW, I have maybe 6 different drawings; they all show two doors. :-/

**Milton Shupe** · September 21st, 2011, 08:47

Originally Posted by hawkeye52

From Mil Std 2161A (AS), page 39, Section 5.2.2.10.3.5

Attachment 48709

White band = 3" wide
Red band = 6" wide
White band = 3" wide

- H52

Great information to have for the texture artists; thank you so much.

***johndetrick*** · September 21st, 2011, 09:36

more pictures of the torpedo bay

http://www.williammaloney.com/Aviati...cker/index.htm

**Milton Shupe** · September 21st, 2011, 10:00

Got it John; thank you for that.

I do have more questions for clarification of other items as follows: (Refer to labeled picture attached)

A: What are these? How do they work?
B: Is this a rotating beacon?
C: What is this? Does it drop/extend/retract? When, are there speed limitations?
D: I have several pictures that do a fair job of showing the cabling here but some not definitive. Is there a better, more accurate schematic or drawing available?
E: I cannot make this out: mini doors?
F: Appears to be a retractable antenna like on top of teh E1B radome?
G: Identify please.
H: Fuel dump on right nacelle is located outboard; left nacelle fuel dump is inboard?

Thanks in advance

***hawkeye52*** · September 21st, 2011, 10:08

The weapons compartment (bomb bay) is asymmetric on ALL Stoofs, and it is on the Port side (Captain's side). The relatively rare -2 had an expanded bay to accommodate a nuclear weapon; the expansion resulted in a faired extension on the Port side. Internally, the crew door leads to a step-up onto the interior floor upon which all four crewmen have their stations. The interior floor is the top of the weapons bay. To my knowledge there was not even a mockup of a full-width weapons compartment, as that would have REALLY complicated crew entry.

- H52

***johndetrick*** · September 21st, 2011, 11:03

A: What are these? How do they work?
A) I don't know
B: Is this a rotating beacon?
A) YES
C: What is this? Does it drop/extend/retract? When, are there speed limitations?
A) I don't know
D: I have several pictures that do a fair job of showing the cabling here but some not definitive.
Is there a better, more accurate schematic or drawing available?
A) HF long wire antennas with zero tension release
E: I cannot make this out: mini doors?
A) Retractable blade antenna
F: Appears to be a retractable antenna like on top of teh E1B radome?
A) I dont know
G: Identify please.
A) Looks like a glideslope antenna
H: Fuel dump on right nacelle is located outboard; left nacelle fuel dump is inboard?
A) correct fuel dump chute on left engine is inboard

***Matt Wynn*** · September 21st, 2011, 13:13

thought i'd stick my nose back in, Weathering is 90% complete, parts being shipped bit by bit to my 'sidekick' Nick for final decalling prior to go on the Stoof with a Roof paintkit