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    Is there any chance we can get this thread made sticky please?

    It's proving useful for a lot of people, and I think it could generate an awful lot more projects on SOH.
    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by OBIO View Post
    Here's a list of Ito's planes that I have found to have working VCs.

    Vickers Armstrong Type 432
    Fiesler Fi-167
    Reggiane RE-2001
    Heinkle He219-A7
    J7W1 Shinden
    Ju-388L
    Ju-388J
    Macchi Mc.200
    Mig-21bis
    Yak-23 Flora
    Blohm and Voss BV138
    Me-410
    Su-24M
    FJ-1
    P-82B
    F-82G
    A5M4 Claude
    Il-2 Sturmovik
    He-177 Greif
    Fairey Barracuda Mk.V

    That's all of 'em I have. If you know of any more Ito planes with working VCs (meaning...working gauges and not just the painted on gauges), please post them here.

    OBIO
    Regarding the Shinden, have you tried using Mr Piglet's FSX FDE's (providing he has no objections of course) as a donor?

    And the Greif, we have really got to look at that as a project; plenty of repaint potential, an interesting soundset for Nigel to look at & the possibility of a decent cockpit makeover!!
    Andy

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    Concerning the He-177 Greif.....there is a flight dynamics update for it on Flightsim.com. He177fm.zip is the name. It's by James Banks. This update gets the Greif starting like a real piston engined plane and it flies nicely.

    As far as sounds go, I am using the DB606 sound pack by Lawdog (it's in the Warbirds Archive under his use name Lawdog3260 so something close to that). The early 177s used the 606, which were 2 DB601 or DB603 inverted V-12s mounted real close together and coupled through a common gear reduction system. Later models of the 177 used the DB610, which appeared to be a purpose built inverted V-24!

    Ito's F-82/P-82 have a revised FDE set available....here in the SOH library by Fliger747.

    The IL-2 has a FDE tweak available on Flightsim.com. Sturmovik_fix.zip by Ricardo Jones.

    THe A5M4 Claude is already set up as a piston engine plane....the FDE needs tweaked though.

    I have the BV138 set up with a FDE set from Payakan's FS2002 BV138.....it flies like a big lumbering beast, not an easy plane to fly but it behaves well (no shaking, no pitchiness to the controls, airspeed is pretty close to specs).

    THe Fi-167 has an FDE update, links to it are posted by norab earlier in this thread.

    OBIO

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    Ref the He 177 model, I have a set of layered masters in paint shop pro format if anyone wants them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveB View Post
    Ref the He 177 model, I have a set of layered masters in paint shop pro format if anyone wants them.


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    Yes please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG43 View Post
    Yes please.

    PM me your email addy and i'll send them over via yousendit. I also have layered masters for the Me410.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OBIO View Post
    Concerning the He-177 Greif.....there is a flight dynamics update for it on Flightsim.com. He177fm.zip is the name. It's by James Banks. This update gets the Greif starting like a real piston engined plane and it flies nicely.

    As far as sounds go, I am using the DB606 sound pack by Lawdog (it's in the Warbirds Archive under his use name Lawdog3260 so something close to that). The early 177s used the 606, which were 2 DB601 or DB603 inverted V-12s mounted real close together and coupled through a common gear reduction system. Later models of the 177 used the DB610, which appeared to be a purpose built inverted V-24!

    Ito's F-82/P-82 have a revised FDE set available....here in the SOH library by Fliger747.

    The IL-2 has a FDE tweak available on Flightsim.com. Sturmovik_fix.zip by Ricardo Jones.

    THe A5M4 Claude is already set up as a piston engine plane....the FDE needs tweaked though.

    I have the BV138 set up with a FDE set from Payakan's FS2002 BV138.....it flies like a big lumbering beast, not an easy plane to fly but it behaves well (no shaking, no pitchiness to the controls, airspeed is pretty close to specs).

    THe Fi-167 has an FDE update, links to it are posted by norab earlier in this thread.

    OBIO
    To add to that list, on Flightsim again, barracudamk_vaccurateair.zip - search on Barracuda and there are some good repaints as well.
    Andy

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    Ercoupe

    This one has an excellent exterior, but the flight dynamics are way off, and the VC is really rough. But, having read your advice about resizing the VCgauges, I might try this once again and substitute another air file.

    Thanks for the tip, and for the one on adjusting the throttle, too!FS2002 - FS2002 Aircraft FS2002/FS2004 ERCO 415 Ercoupe
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    FS2002/FS2004 ERCO 415 Ercoupe. This plane was designed by several engineers at the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) in response to a Bureau of Air Commerce design competition during the mid 1930s for an easy-to-fly, safe airplane. The Engineering and Reseach Company (ERCO) was founded to develop the design. The 415 utilized a two-control system with a control wheel linking the rudder, ailerons and nose wheel. The wheel also controlled the elevator. This arrangement eliminated the need for rudder pedals. Four kind of models and five kind of paint examples are included. By Kazunori Ito.

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    I spent some time on Flightsim.com last night investigating even more of Mr. Ito's packages. And what I found were a BUNCH more with VCs. So, I will list them here:

    Me-323 E-2 Gigant
    HE-111Z
    Me-321 Gigant
    Avro 730
    Avtek 400
    Bell X-22A
    Bell P-59A
    F-86D Sabredog
    RF4-D Motorglider
    F-94C Starfire
    DH-108 Swallow
    DH-86 Express
    F3D-2 Skyknight
    X-3 Stilleto
    Martin SP-5B Marlin
    F-15E Strike Eagle
    Westland Whirlwind (with a panel mod by Lionheart...wwpanel.zip)
    Blackburn B-25 Roc Mk.1
    MS760 Paris

    The Sabredog I've had installed for a while....and it's NICE. Needs better skins and it's a shame that it isn't reflective (I made mine reflective and it is KILLER!).

    I checked out the F-15E. Nice. Not as nice as the Iris F-15s, nor the Coral F-15. But it's free, comes in a lot of configurations and give very nice frame rates.

    THe SP-5B Marlin...big seaplane. Looks nice, VC is nice enough, needs a total FDE replacement (as do most of Ito's planes).

    That brings the list of Ito planes with working VC to 39. Far more than I thought.

    OBIO

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    Quote Originally Posted by OBIO View Post
    Ito's F-82/P-82 have a revised FDE set available....here in the SOH library by Fliger747.
    Actually there are two, one for the F82G and a RTW set for the F82B. And there is a Twin Mustang soundset done by ..... Obio!!
    Andy

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    Fi-167 Video

    As promised, here is the video of the Fi-167 doing it's 'thing' (landing almost vertically) in FS2004. Just for kicks. Short (<3 min) video. The flight dynamics were NOT easy to do, but I prevailed (as I always do-even if it takes me a week-hehe). Enjoy.
    Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wjeMM2_t5g .
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    Post in another thread that I thought might be useful here.

    Quote Originally Posted by norab View Post
    you can find Ito san's Mig 17 but with an improved FDE here

    http://aviationtop1000sites.com/modu...=dateD&show=10

    Hungarian markings but I'm sure no problem to swap them out
    Looking at Obio's list above, I swapped out the dynamics in Itosan's Sabre Dog for a set by Bob Chicilo for David Wooster's Sabre Dog, worked rather well. Similarly, I used one of Mr Chicilo's updates for the XB-70 in the Avro 730 as a 'quick & dirty' solution - the intention is still to tweak it, to something nearer the proposed performance, and the cockpit needs a lot of work to take it back to the correct period.

    There is a (beta) DH-86 over at The Old Hangar (can't remember the author at the moment) which is an obvious donor for that of Itosan's.

    Look over at Flightsim for filep5mmarlin14pack.zip , a set of repaints and revised dynamics for the Marlin.

    Again, if any Mods are looking in, any chance we can get this thread stickied, it's proving very entertaining.
    Andy

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    I will stickie the thread...if the FS9 Mods decide that it is not stickie worthie, then we will abide by their decision...this is their Forum to supervise afterall.

    I started this thread concerning those planes done by Ito that have working Virtual Cockpits since I fly from the VC only and do not use planes without VCs. But I know that there are those who do fly form the 2D panel. So....if you know of any tweaks, improvements, etc., to any of Ito's vast library of planes and space craft....feel free to share the info. Give us the name of Ito's plane, the name and location of the tweak package or packages, and it will become part of this growing thread.

    Let's work to make all of Ito's planes fly as good as they look. The man produced to many visually stunning aircraft for flight sim, I feel we owe him this thread in appreciation of his generosity and productivity.

    OBIO

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    If you like Itos Mig17, i'd really recommend our very own Morton, giving her some new clothes and a very good multi view 2d panel, if you cant have a vc, this is the next best thing, it turn'd up on the CFS2 forums but works fine out of the box on FS9 model.
    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...ghlight=morton

    cheers ian

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    This is an ideal thread for the Outhouse Wiki, along with maybe one for 3D light configs. And also onef or Obio, the material mdlmat and shine tutorial .

    Great work guys, one day when I can get back to FS and get it running nice I'll be digging up this thread, lol.

    Ta much,
    Jamie

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