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    Suggesting a hole.......

    I tried to visually suggest a hole but wasn't satisfied with the result. It must look like you would have used a boolean operation to make a hole.....

    any suggestions?

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    hole...???

    Quote Originally Posted by Cees Donker View Post
    I tried to visually suggest a hole but wasn't satisfied with the result. It must look like you would have used a boolean operation to make a hole.....

    any suggestions?

    Cees
    Can you be more explicit as to what this hole is or represents...and where does it go?
    Like... a fuselage hole used to house the pins on a jack to raise the tail of a tail dragger...
    a hole in fabric on doped fabric finishes... a hand hold (see through hole) on fabric wings ... I think I could help... but then again... who knows what you mean aby a hole...lol

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    Thumbs up

    Well, this hole!



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    Hey Cees,

    Are you looking for something like this?

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    Stratobat


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    Perhaps without the three lines and the reflection in the middle? That lighter round suggests the hole in this case. I'll try it! Thanks!



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    Hey Cees,

    I added the three lines in to represent the metal spokes of the wheel. I wasn't sure about the reflection, myself, but maybe another idea would be to use a zinc chromate type of colour for inside the hole, then with the metal spokes above that on another layer, followed by a dark ring to denote depth on the inside and a light one on the outside to highlight the outer edge of the hole?

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    I have the idea that a mere lighter edge will do the trick! Great idea to add the spokes!

    Thanks!

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    Hey Cees,

    Here's a visual of the idea above

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    Looks like a hole alright!



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    Hey Cees,

    Here's what I've come up with.

    Edit: Added second image - Tidied up the shadow in the hole, added noise and included bolts as per Gaucho's post below.

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    A hole in 5 easy steps

    Quote Originally Posted by Cees Donker View Post
    Well, this hole!



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    Attachment 37495

    Here it is dude: It was just done on the spurr of the moment so bear with me

    A. Select a color background the visualize your work.
    B. New layer to work on.
    Then,
    1. Use a circle selection, invert selection and with an airbrush stroke slightly larger than the circle... "puff " white slightly outside the circle rim.
    2. Fill the inside of the circle (reverting to normal selection inside it) with black or a suitable color as required by the skin of the model.
    3. Inside the circle place a very slight white semielliptical edging on it lower canthus.
    4. Now take the large "hole" and reduce it by whatever percentage [in this case I did 40% of the original hole] is required to bring it to the scale shown in a picture or polygon model, etc.
    and voila' you got a reasonably realistic hole in 5 easy steps..
    Happy flying!!

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    corrections to the above reply!

    Quote Originally Posted by gaucho_59 View Post
    Attachment 37495

    Here it is dude: It was just done on the spurr of the moment so bear with me

    A. Select a color background so you can visualize your work as you do it.
    B. Start a new layer to work on.
    Then,
    1. Using a circle selection, invert the selection and with an airbrush stroke slightly larger than the circle... "puff " white slightly outside the circle rim.
    2. Fill the inside of the circle (reverting to normal selection inside it) with black or a suitable color as required by the skin of the model.
    3. Inside the circle place a very slight white semielliptical edging on it lower canthus so as to give it some depth and perspective.
    4. Now take the large "hole" and reduce it by whatever percentage [in this case I did 40% of the original hole] is required to bring it to the scale shown in a picture or polygon model, etc.
    and voila' you got a reasonably realistic hole in 5 easy steps..
    {I am sorry about the first batched tutorial... I cannot write on the fly... lol}
    Glad to help you whenever you need it... don't hesitate to ask

    Happy flying!!
    Always here for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaucho_59 View Post
    Always here for you!
    Excellent idea to show the bicycle style spokes through the hole Stratobat!!!
    I will keep it in mind if I ever need to do a hole like this...

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    Great little tutorial Carlos!

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaucho_59 View Post
    Excellent idea to show the bicycle style spokes through the hole Stratobat!!!
    Thank you, Gaucho. I'm glad you like it

    Regards,
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