Fliger! your roll rate is outstanding. better than mine because you got it to behave the way it should at low speeds whereas i hadnt gotten anywhere near that and it would have taken me a few dys to accomplish in a perfect lil world.. Your thrust table is also a lot better. quicker and more powerful than the one i'm working with, so those are parts of yours i'm specifically keeping. I need to massage the pitch and AOA rates as well as the CG but once thats done it'll simply be a matter of you and i polishing the flight model and dialing it in..