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    $500 computer -- what do you think of these components?

    Any advice will be gratefully received. I had this in the shopping cart, and I was typing in my credit card info when I thought: "Better check with the ones who KNOW."

    My own build, described several weeks ago, is on hold for the time being, so I'm building this for someone else. In this price bracket, it's tempting to just get a Dell Inspiron or similar, but the recipient runs two monitors and that means adding a video card -- at which point, with the Inspirons, you may also need to get a new power supply. So, I'm going to build.

    Will purchase Windows 7 separately and use the Antec 450W power supply that was left over from my previous build two years ago (PSU came with my Sonata II case but I bought a larger power supply separately). Will also reuse keyboard, speakers, and mouse.

    Base: this isn't really a gaming rig, but to get started I used this recent article at Tom's Hardware, on building a $550 Gaming PC: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...lock,2659.html. I opted for a different video card (see below), different DVD burner (based on my own experience with the last build; my pick was all of $1 more), and a larger hard drive. The RAM they recommended wasn't available at NewEgg, so I picked something else that got good reviews and was in my price range. Kept the case, mobo, and CPU the same.

    Goals: the user mainly uses office apps, the web, and streams video online. Some light gaming. This will be a big upgrade from the present machine, a six-year old Dell Inspiron. Should be much snappier and stream video much smoother.

    Constraints:
    1. Total cost not to exceed $570. (I have some room here, as you can see.)
    2. Needs to be quiet (that's one of two reasons I picked this particular version of the Nvidia 9800; it's MSI, and it has low power requirements).

    If there's a better mobo/CPU combination in this price bracket, I'd love to know about it. Same for case and memory. (With hard drives I have a somewhat arbitrary rule: NO unless it the average review at NewEgg is five stars.)


    Qty.Product DescriptionSavingsTotal Price1
    ASUS M4A77TD ATX AMD Motherboard
    Item #:N82E16813131603
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

    $84.991
    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    Item #:N82E16822152181
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

    $54.991
    Pioneer CD/DVD Burner Black IDE Model DVR-118LBK LabelFlash Support
    Item #:N82E16827129043
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

    $22.991
    COOLER MASTER Elite 330 RC-330-KKN1-GP Black Computer Case
    Item #:N82E16811119115
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
    -$5.00 Instant
    $44.99
    $39.991
    AMD Athlon II X3 435 2.9GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor
    Item #:N82E16819103724
    Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

    $70.001
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    Item #:N82E16820231180
    Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy

    $102.991
    MSI GeForce 9800 GT N9800GT-MD1G Video Card
    Item #:N82E16814127441
    Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy
    -$5.00 Instant
    $20.00 Mail-in Rebate
    $119.99
    $114.99Grand Total:$490.94
    David Wilson-Okamura

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    David as long has you don't have real high expectations in FSX it should have fairly decent frame rates at medium settings. Not a bad choice for $500 and the motherboard is very good over-clocker. I hear a lot of people knock that three core and call it a joke but it actually does fairly well. I think I would have chosen the high end dual core X2 over the X3 but if do other video related things besides FSX I can see why you picked it. You might look into a 32mb caching 500gb or 640 GB Western Digital. They have two internal processors that really speed things up which helps on scenery recall.
    Ted


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    Thank you, Ted. I've seen you help a lot of people on this forum including me. Please tell your wife that we are all grateful.
    David Wilson-Okamura

    Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
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    Drove to this tumult in the clouds.
    -- W. B. Yeats, "An Irish Airman Foresees His Death"

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    This is what I ended up ordering. I did what Ted said and got the WD hard drive (I have two of these in my own rig). The RAM I had chosen was out of stock, so I got something a little faster (10600 --> 10666) at about the same price. And Newegg has a one-day sale on Centurion cases with free shipping, so I got a slightly better case and saved $10 on shipping.

    If I were building this for FSX, I'd be nervous. But for its intended purposes, I think it's going to be ok, and make its owner very happy.

    Thank you again, Ted.



    1 x ($70.00) CPU AMD|ATH II X3 435 AM3 R
    $70.00





    1 x ($84.99) MB ASUS M4A77TD AMD770 R
    $84.99





    1 x ($39.99) CASE COOLERMAS|CAC-T05-UW BLK RT
    $39.99





    1 x ($114.99) VGA MSI|N9800GT-MD1G RT
    $114.99





    1 x ($25.99) DVD_BURN PIONEER|DVR-118LBK % - OEM
    $25.99





    1 x ($59.99) HD 640G|WD WD6401AALS % - OEM
    $59.99





    1 x ($97.99) MEM 2Gx2|ADATA AD3U1333B2G9-DRH R
    $97.99







    Subtotal: $493.94
    Tax: $0.00
    Shipping and Handling: $9.38
    Total Amount: $503.32
    David Wilson-Okamura

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    Drove to this tumult in the clouds.
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    I did the build Wednesday after dinner, installed Windows today and copied over the old files. The user is very pleased with the speed (no overclocking so far). I am happy with the sound level. Thank you again, Ted, for your suggestions.
    David Wilson-Okamura

    Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
    Nor public men, nor cheering crowds,
    A lonely impulse of delight
    Drove to this tumult in the clouds.
    -- W. B. Yeats, "An Irish Airman Foresees His Death"

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    That should do rather well once OCed a bit too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dswo View Post
    My own build, described several weeks ago, is on hold for the time being, so I'm building this for someone else. In this price bracket, it's tempting to just get a Dell Inspiron or similar, but the recipient runs two monitors and that means adding a video card -- at which point, with the Inspirons, you may also need to get a new power supply.
    I should have expressed myself better here. All of the prebuilts in this price range -- and you do get a lot for your money -- have onboard video. There either aren't enough output heads, or there isn't enough VRAM, to support two monitors. There's a PCIe slot, so you can add a video card, but then there's the question of "Can the PSU handle it?" --Which is why I'm building instead of buying.
    David Wilson-Okamura

    Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
    Nor public men, nor cheering crowds,
    A lonely impulse of delight
    Drove to this tumult in the clouds.
    -- W. B. Yeats, "An Irish Airman Foresees His Death"

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    I see your point...like I said for $500 if that is the limit, well that isn't too bad of deal for the money it just means lower expectations for FSX.
    Ted


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    Domino optimo maximo!



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