At Last! DC-3 native on the way!

[Javis]

.... if we assume )as we do) that the MAAM-Sim is vapourware.

Who's 'we' ???....

Cheers,
Jan

[CheckSix]

Pls can we have an AC-47? Puhlease....

[spotlope]

I'm a little confused, didn't FSX come with a DC-3 as default? So isn't that a native FSX model?

Sure, there's a default version. If we were all satisfied with defaults though, there wouldn't even be an add-on plane market. I was just saying that before we go rolling our eyes about another DC-3, can we have just one that's top quality? It's not that much to ask.

[bazzar]

OkeyDokey, time to leap in here again.

Points:

1) This is a set of brand, spanking new models built specifically for FSX.
2) The list will include the AC47 Gunship, C47B Troop carrier, DC3 Dakota airliner and British version of the C47, as flown by the BBMF.
3) This is the anniversary year for the C47 so, like the Battle of Britain issues, we are building to commemorate.
4) The FSX default is not actually native FSX. It is based on the old FS9 which with the best will in the World is now getting a bit "tired".
5) "another DC3" so let me see, we're only allowed to make one of everything is that it?
6) Why on earth would anyone base anything on the "default" model? Who do you think we are?

I actually don't care much whether anyone wants this or not. I do and I know a few others who do too.

Jan, I hope you realise that this is not some obscure, sinister plot to combat MAAM. I have every respect for what you guys do, as you know and I will eagerly await the FSX version along with the the many hundreds of others who enjoyed the first issue, me included.

As to other subjects...you'll be surprised what we have in the toy cupboard...if you're good.

[Paul K]

As to other subjects...you'll be surprised what we have in the toy cupboard...if you're good.

I don't suppose its contains a Curtiss C-46 Commando complete with paint kit, does it ? Coupled with Air Hauler down in South America, in all those liveries...wonderful.

[Ken Stallings]

That's your prerogative, Ace. We still do though.

Please do remember that Maam-Sim is not your average commercial FS aircraft developer in need of the money to put food on table. We do our work purely out of love for the hobby in the first place. All revenues are going directly to the museum to help keeping the real Maam birds flying. We do have food on the table too but that comes from other sources.

I'm sure that once our first native, all singing and dancing, FSX model will be released you will start to care again. Don't bother to switch it on it will happen automatically.

The R4D/DC-3/C-47 model will be released as the first native FSX version of our FS9 branch of models. Not just as a native FSX version but rebuild from the ground up. If, by any chance, you have our FS9 version of the venerable Dakota i guess i don't have to tell you what you're going to get with our native FSX version.

Yes, it will take a while. But is this such a problem ?..... FSX will probabely be with us for a looooong time to come, best not shoot all arrows all at once, right ?..

Btw, we'd LOVE to do a DC-4/6/7 but it just so happens that we don't have any of these species sitting here on the Maam tarmac...

Cheers,
Jan
on behalf of Maam-Sim

For what it is worth, I remain convinced to this day that the MAAM DC-3 remains the single finest piece of donationware ever released in the history of the Flight Simulator series. If MAAM could release something as fine for FSX it would be a most welcome day.

I appreciate your tone of reply.

Cheers,

Ken

[bazzar]

"I don't suppose its contains a Curtiss C-46 Commando complete with paint kit, does it ? Coupled with Air Hauler down in South America, in all those liveries...wonderful."

bugger...;>)

[calypsos]

"I don't suppose its contains a Curtiss C-46 Commando complete with paint kit, does it ? Coupled with Air Hauler down in South America, in all those liveries...wonderful."

Oh, and a Vickers Viking too, with all those wonderful colour schemes of the 1950's independant airlines

[Ark]

OkeyDokey, time to leap in here again.

Points:

1) This is a set of brand, spanking new models built specifically for FSX.
2) The list will include the AC47 Gunship, C47B Troop carrier, DC3 Dakota airliner and British version of the C47, as flown by the BBMF.
3) This is the anniversary year for the C47 so, like the Battle of Britain issues, we are building to commemorate.
4) The FSX default is not actually native FSX. It is based on the old FS9 which with the best will in the World is now getting a bit "tired".
5) "another DC3" so let me see, we're only allowed to make one of everything is that it?
6) Why on earth would anyone base anything on the "default" model? Who do you think we are?

I actually don't care much whether anyone wants this or not. I do and I know a few others who do too.

Jan, I hope you realise that this is not some obscure, sinister plot to combat MAAM. I have every respect for what you guys do, as you know and I will eagerly await the FSX version along with the the many hundreds of others who enjoyed the first issue, me included.

As to other subjects...you'll be surprised what we have in the toy cupboard...if you're good.

Not to get off subject..................but...

Isn't your team also doing the Avanti II?
If so, does that mean it is getting "close"? I have been wishing for a Native FSX Avanti since FSX was previewed. I check the Wilco site every day for release news. lol

[tigisfat]

Personally, I wouldn't care if they did use tweaked versions of the default stuff. Sure, it's got problems, but that doesn't matter unless it's unchanged, hence the words 'tweaked' and 'in work'. We know they aren't, so that's moot too.


Isn't it the end result that matters? I don't care what they do, what they use or how they go about it. Most of the time it's none of my business or concern. When I see some screenshots, prices and features then I'll begin to form an opinion. I for one think the prospect of having this in the future is exciting.

I'll be sure to recreate some 'levitow' moments once the AC-47 is up and rocking.

[Snave]

OkeyDokey, time to leap in here again.

Points:

1) This is a set of brand, spanking new models built specifically for FSX.
2) The list will include the AC47 Gunship, C47B Troop carrier, DC3 Dakota airliner and British version of the C47, as flown by the BBMF.
3) This is the anniversary year for the C47 so, like the Battle of Britain issues, we are building to commemorate.
4) The FSX default is not actually native FSX. It is based on the old FS9 which with the best will in the World is now getting a bit "tired".
5) "another DC3" so let me see, we're only allowed to make one of everything is that it?
6) Why on earth would anyone base anything on the "default" model? Who do you think we are?

I actually don't care much whether anyone wants this or not. I do and I know a few others who do too.

Jan, I hope you realise that this is not some obscure, sinister plot to combat MAAM. I have every respect for what you guys do, as you know and I will eagerly await the FSX version along with the the many hundreds of others who enjoyed the first issue, me included.

As to other subjects...you'll be surprised what we have in the toy cupboard...if you're good.

Thanks for jumping in.

I also have respect for MAAM-Sim, but can only respect what they have released for the sim. And what have they released for FSX? FSX has been around since 2006 and there are NO FSX-native aircraft for it from MAAM-Sim. One cannot be expected to respect something we've never seen, tried or donated to?

It's not a criticism of timescales, only judgement based on execution. I'm sure if the MAAM product was available we could praise it. But it looks like we'll have the Aeroplane Heaven product far, far sooner, so it will get the praise as it is not only coming - soon - but also will do so in the light of the Anniversary which will see DC-3's and C-47's highlighted the world over.

From a donationware perspective, failing to have the product available is likely to result in far fewer donations, wouldn't you say Jan?

[bazzar]

Not to get off subject..................but...

Isn't your team also doing the Avanti II?
If so, does that mean it is getting "close"? I have been wishing for a Native FSX Avanti since FSX was previewed. I check the Wilco site every day for release news. lol

On finals, spraying a few bugs. Not far away.

[Javis]

Jan, I hope you realise that this is not some obscure, sinister plot to combat MAAM. I have every respect for what you guys do, as you know and I will eagerly await the FSX version along with the the many hundreds of others who enjoyed the first issue, me included.

Thank you, Barry, much appreciated !

Well, you can imagine you won't see us jumping for joy reading this topic, but, Hey, we don't own any copyright to anything DC-3 related whatsoever, you have just as much right to build one for FSX as we have.

It just so happens that the DC-3 is one of the most versatile aircraft ever used, it would be impossible for one FS developer only to reproduce each and every type, version and variation. F.i. we would've loved to release an early Wright Cylone version of our DC-3 model but never could find the time to realise that. Same goes for a ski version. On the other hand the release of an AC-47 Gunship and Basler turboprop conversion will be extremely unlikely coming from us. I mean if there's any aircraft that can deliver more than enough versatillity to warrant the release of an FSX model by more than one FS aircraft developer it sure is the DC-3.

And sure too i realise there's no sinister complot involved to harm Maam, Barry, rest assured. We've been thru that and can see it coming from miles away !

Best of luck and lots of fun with the development of your Gooney bird, mate !

Cheers,
Jan

[Javis]

For what it is worth, I remain convinced to this day that the MAAM DC-3 remains the single finest piece of donationware ever released in the history of the Flight Simulator series. If MAAM could release something as fine for FSX it would be a most welcome day.

Thank you, Ken, that's highly appreciated and you bet we'll be putting our best foot forward to make sure that our current FS9 version cannot even stand in the shade of our upcoming native FSX iteration.

Cheers,
Jan

[Snave]

Thank you, Ken, that's highly appreciated and you bet we'll be putting our best foot forward to make sure that our current FS9 version cannot even stand in the shade of our upcoming native FSX iteration.

Cheers,
Jan

If you produce it, we will come...