OT: Do you like trains?

[warchild]

yerahhh, train sim 2 would have been great.. but it doesnt exist.. :(.. I know that sounds oxy-moronic in light of the given evidence in the pics, but really, try finding a copy.. it doesnt exist.. .

Given also that Amazon is charging 114 dollars for MSTS 1, i'm terrified to think what would have been charged if they ever made it to 2..

[heywooood]

well I probably have more than three times that amount tied up in FSX with all the payware I've added -

I would have bought TS2 for whatever they set the price at - something for a serious developer to consider is the amount of money disappointed TS2's potential fans are now shelling out for Railworks and its addon packs.

[warchild]

What we need to do is make railworks good.. it wont be easy ( not if we model the world ) but it can be done, somehow.. is got a very good foundation, and the graphics and physix is good as well.. Just needs to be developed more i think.. and for thirty bucks, that aint bad..

[empeck]

*sigh*

*sigh* :(

[CurlSnout]

Given also that Amazon is charging 114 dollars for MSTS 1, i'm terrified to think what would have been charged if they ever made it to 2..

I've seen this claim posted twice now; although it may be factually accurate, it is at the same time rather misleading. Manufacture of the discs must have dropped off or halted; supply has gone down and price has gone up. Until quite recently MSTS could be found at discount outlets for around ten bucks. If you're serious about getting a copy you can find it in abundance at online auctions for under $30. Using the inflated price of MSTS to extrapolate/speculate over the (imaginary) cost of MSTS2 is baseless.

On a different but related note for anyone interested, the rise and fall of MSTS2 was/is well documented at the dedicated 3DTrains forum that was quite lively and is still archived - the developers were active participants right up to the (unexpected and very sad for many of us) cancellation:

http://www.3dtrains.com/forums/index.php?showforum=90

On a positive note, for those of you discovering or renewing your intereste in train sims (MSTS, Trainz, RAILWORKS), be sure to check Obo's locomotives catalog(s) for content (you want a Class 55 Deltic, Smoothie?):

http://railworks.banal.net/catalog/catalog.html

Hi-Ho and Have Fun,

cs

[Matt Wynn]

Woooooo! Deltics! and wow everything from the class 40 early ones to the later class 55 Deltics! wow! i might just have to get that Railsim is it? and get modelling the lines in the UK

[warchild]

What i want to see is more american rail stuff.. i understand that most developers live in europe these days, and so i also understand that they wouldnt be as interested in american rail as their own, but americas history and railroading are on in the same thing. American rail took this country from being 13 little colony/states, and turned it into a 3000 mile wide nation. Railways also gave us standardized time, and on the downside, were responsable for the alarm clock that wakes you up in the morning.. Trains made this nation possible, and carried it on their backs for over a hundred years. American rail isnt the nice, efficient and clean stuff you see in europe. It's big and brutish and can carry a three mile long set of cars up the side of a mountain, because it had to do that. Its given us some of the biggest, most intricate, most powerful machinery on the face of the earth ( 4-8-8-4 Big boy, 4-6-6-0 Mallet ) and the stories of the American rail more adventure, more romance, more danger and excitement, than almost anything that could have ever been written by Wells and Verne. So yeah. I want to see more american stuff. I consider Microsofts dropping of MSTS2 not only an insult to rail fans, but a betrayal of our history. Being an american vet, you can probably guess what my feelings are about betrayal.
Pam

[warchild]

On a different but related note for anyone interested, the rise and fall of MSTS2 was/is well documented at the dedicated 3DTrains forum that was quite lively and is still archived - the developers were active participants right up to the (unexpected and very sad for many of us) cancellation:

http://www.3dtrains.com/forums/index.php?showforum=90

Tried joining the forum there. They dont like my email address though so i couldnt join.. Kinda stupid banning someone from joining because of where you live ( email wise )..

[Snuffy]

Well Pam, I think you hit it on the head. (Being an American Railroader ... )

Today I spent much time doing research for locomotives and rolling stock to see if I could populate a route once I decided to do this thing.

I'm finding Railworks to be pathetically lacking in any kind of period vehicles. On the other hand, MSTS seems to have an over abundance of period vehicles for what I want to do.

So now I'm at the quandry: Keep progressing with RW and then figure out how to build 3D models for the thing, or switch to MSTS and try to find a cheap package that hasn't been used.

What to do!!??!!

[Henry]

Well Pam, I think you hit it on the head. (Being an American Railroader ... )

Today I spent much time doing research for locomotives and rolling stock to see if I could populate a route once I decided to do this thing.

I'm finding Railworks to be pathetically lacking in any kind of period vehicles. On the other hand, MSTS seems to have an over abundance of period vehicles for what I want to do.

So now I'm at the quandry: Keep progressing with RW and then figure out how to build 3D models for the thing, or switch to MSTS and try to find a cheap package that hasn't been used.

What to do!!??!!

some can and will work
H

[warchild]

Is UKTrainsim on the rocks?? I just tried downloading the amtrak fleet cars from there.. heres the message i get..


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SOOO, i go to throw them some money, and heres the message i get..



<fieldset> 404 - File or directory not found.

The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.


I dont get it..



</fieldset>

[warchild]

Well Pam, I think you hit it on the head. (Being an American Railroader ... )

Today I spent much time doing research for locomotives and rolling stock to see if I could populate a route once I decided to do this thing.

I'm finding Railworks to be pathetically lacking in any kind of period vehicles. On the other hand, MSTS seems to have an over abundance of period vehicles for what I want to do.

So now I'm at the quandry: Keep progressing with RW and then figure out how to build 3D models for the thing, or switch to MSTS and try to find a cheap package that hasn't been used.

What to do!!??!!

I'm going to run both msts and railworks.. Disk space is at a premium, but Railroading is the only thing in my life i can do where no one else is involved, and so its my only personal pleasure.. MSTS offers a plaethora of addon components and allows me to do historical ( hysterical? ) and period railroading with the only cost being the lack of a virtual cabin ( and price of course ), while RW with its advanced physX generator, and pretty much a blank open canvas, points to a future. That will give me the best i could hope for at the moment, and help me establish a solid platform for future development.

[empeck]

Yeah, it's ridiculous :|

I have the same problem with rolling stock as you. Most of Polish locomotives, wagons, routes are for MSTS and Trainz. There is absolutely no Rail Simulator/Railworks scene. It's a pity, because I really like this game :|

[Bjoern]

Does Railworks offer one of these?



Or - better - one of these?


Frankfurt - Cologne with 300kph...how cool that was...*Dreams away*

[Snuffy]

some can and will work
H

Whutchewtalkinboutboy?

And how do I find out?