UFO over New York City

**Lionheart** · December 30th, 2009, 19:32

Hey all,

I hadnt seen this part of editing before. This is the UFO that was attached or touching one of the former Twin Towers in NYC in which a news crew in a news helicopter spot it. When they get close, it rushes away and stops in mid-air, then in almost a bang like sound, it moves towards them, almost collides with them, and rushes into the sky at such a rate, its leaving a con trail straight up.

In this footage, go to the very last one. (The first ones are not so good).

Note the shape of the craft as it sails past the helo's side window (cameraman).

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tigisfat · December 30th, 2009, 20:45

Wow. We would've heard a lot more if it was real...

**FengZ** · December 31st, 2009, 03:12

hehe, not a bad attempt. There are some dead give a ways for it be to staged though. The worst is the camera movement. You can tell that the camera man is already setting up the shot, and holding positions as if he knows where the UFO will appear. Notice how he pans right and stops perfectly still (so it'll be easier to composite the 3D). And, why would he zoom out of the shot once he had the UFO in focus? The thing to do is to zoom in right? But no, he zooms out because he knows in the next shot, the UFO needs to fly towards the chopper

Then after the UFO hits the window, he pans instantly to the right and stops perfectly again....so we can "see" the UFO better......and in both shots, the UFO is perfectly in the middle of the shot.....way too perfect.

if this was a WIP screening for a FX shot for a film, the camera animator would be yelled at

It'll be much more realistic if the camera loses the UFO or just catch it off to one side...especially during that last shot. He should fall back to his chair and the camera sorta falls w/ him...and on the bottom edge, you can see the contrail go off..

-feng

**FengZ** · December 31st, 2009, 03:18

and btw, in the video before it, it's almost laughable how fake it was. They show some "setting" up shots, with a big camera mounted on an industrial tri-pod, pointing in the area where the UFO will appear. But when the UFO appears, the image is extremly shaking and going in and out of focus. Whatever happened to the steady tri-pod and industry camera? lol... it suddently turned to home video....

-feng

***PRB*** · December 31st, 2009, 03:30

My favorite is the film featureing the two dudes who actually made the crop circle in the film (the IR dots walking around)! And how come we never get video of alien space ships that is both shot in daylight, and in focus? When the video is in focus, it's obviously faked. Ahh... Nevvermind...

**TomSteber** · December 31st, 2009, 03:39

Yup, seen em before. all fake.
I will say though with the world of CGI and Photo Shop, it's going to be more and more difficult to tell when we have the real deal.

That's why I like photos and any movies (video) from the 40's-70's.
I feel if they can pass the test, their much more credible.

**Bjoern** · December 31st, 2009, 07:21

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...and they will come to kill us all.

**Dain Arns** · December 31st, 2009, 08:57

Just stay away from Devil's Tower National Monument in Wyoming...

**Lionheart** · December 31st, 2009, 10:36

Thanks Feng for pointing that out. I hadnt thought of that before.

Bill

**hubbabubba** · January 5th, 2010, 04:01

Eric 'Winkle' Brown, as he was stationed at Brawdy, Wales, in February 1956, saw a UFO with his own eyes and even went pursuing it in a Vampire up to 40,000 feet.

What he saw had a saucer shape and, although he could not get any closer despite his best efforts, he is certain that it was not a rogue balloon or any known aircraft.

As he is the world record holder for the number of aircraft types flown in one's career, I would give him more than simple benefit of the doubt.

«Where I once scoffed - I now have an open mind.» Wings on my sleeve, p.226

I frankly think that the UFO phenomenon is worth more than a few laughs and should be seriously investigated. Sure, they're is pranksters and misinterpretation of natural and artificial events, but millions of observers, some as reputable as Eric Brown, can't all be wrong.

thedude247 · January 5th, 2010, 06:41

Yeah, looks fake.

**Lionheart** · January 5th, 2010, 09:23

Originally Posted by hubbabubba

Eric 'Winkle' Brown, as he was stationed at Brawdy, Wales, in February 1956, saw a UFO with his own eyes and even went pursuing it in a Vampire up to 40,000 feet.

What he saw had a saucer shape and, although he could not get any closer despite his best efforts, he is certain that it was not a rogue balloon or any known aircraft.

As he is the world record holder for the number of aircraft types flown in one's career, I would give him more than simple benefit of the doubt.

«Where I once scoffed - I now have an open mind.» Wings on my sleeve, p.226

I frankly think that the UFO phenomenon is worth more than a few laughs and should be seriously investigated. Sure, they're is pranksters and misinterpretation of natural and artificial events, but millions of observers, some as reputable as Eric Brown, can't all be wrong.

Thanks for the heads up HubbaBubba,

I believe they exist.

That NYC UFO looks absolutely real to me. I had never thought of the camera angles as being setup so well. I still think it 'could' be real, but I have to realize that it possibly isnt.

We have to be able to laugh though. Cant be overly serious.

Bill

**hubbabubba** · January 5th, 2010, 12:54

We have to be able to laugh though. Cant be overly serious.

I do fully agree with you Lionheart, we certainly need a few laughs now and then.

But it now gets to the point that pilots and air controllers would not report a UFO sighting (there is a form just for that), afraid of being ridiculed and ostracized by their peers.

With CGI and Photoshop, pranksters have a ball. But a fake can still be revealed as such, hopefully. Technology has also given us camcorder and cell phones, which should, not surprisingly, increase the recorded evidence gathered.

Being on dial-up, video quality is poor and framerate choppy, Lionheart, so I will leave to experts to decide of the validity of these pictures.

**Lionheart** · January 5th, 2010, 16:43

Roger that.

Its nice to have high speed internet, I'll tell yah.

I watched quite a few interviews of airline pilots that were doing flights through Alaska. Alaska was a hotbed of sightings, but they were of huge flying objects, some the size of aircraft carriers, but definately alien shapes, (giant gumdrop looking things, maybe one that was a disc). Some pilot crews had taken pictures. Even the USAF were in on the ATC chat and were asking the size and location as the object(s) were not on radar.

I am sure this is a watched planet. It would be interesting to know if or 'when' we ourselves were already going extra-planetary. For instance, were some of these things ours?

Bill

**TomSteber** · January 6th, 2010, 03:19

Hubbabubba & Bill,
I highly recommend watching the two documentaries from James Fox.
I know you can watch the first one on line. And I've seen the second one just recently on the History Channel.
The first one is called: "Out Of The Blue"
The second one is called: "I Know What I Saw"
These both include many interviews with very credible witnesses.
They should certainly open ones eyes if their a skeptic.