Conspicuous by Their Absence

**Ivan** · July 24th, 2011, 18:04

Yes, I got it twice. Thanks to both of you!

I poked around at it a bit.

BTW, No Dice, you have a very nice Veltro on your site already:
http://www.thefreeflightsite.com/MC.205%20RF%20V2.5.zip

There are a bunch of things I would do differently, but this is still a very nice model.

- Ivan.

***No Dice*** · July 24th, 2011, 20:30

Ivan,
I agree with you, the 2.5 posted is really a beauty, BUT yours gets to go into the Ivan Collection and nothing can compete with that.

Hopefully most people notice that I am quite particular on what gets posted and what does not on the Free Flight Site. It is intended for the collector, the garbage is still out there on the other sites for anyone that wants to spend the time weeding it out.

Dave

**Ivan** · July 25th, 2011, 05:34

Actually I will disagree with you here. There is LOTs of stuff out there that can easily compete with anything I have ever built.

- Ivan.

***No Dice*** · July 25th, 2011, 17:13

I also have a Lysander AFX that I have not posted, Anyone want it.

P.S. to Ivan, if that was true, they also would have their own section on the Free Flight Site.

Dave

**smilo** · July 25th, 2011, 19:04

after spending the weekend
figuring out how to open the stuka,
(actually, Ivan showed me)
i'll take the Lysander just for a look see.

although, i do have a very nice one by James Elwood.

by the way, to say the least,
the stuka leaves something to be desired,
but maybe useful in a project
i've had in mind for a few years now.

***No Dice*** · July 25th, 2011, 20:19

Chech your mail Smilo, I never said they were great, I find and distribute...

Just may give someone something to start with.

**Ivan** · July 25th, 2011, 21:10

Just for grins, I poked around a bit today looking for good drawings of the Ju-87D. I found some really excellent ones for the Ju-87B, but unfortunately not the D model.

- Ivan.

***hubbabubba*** · July 25th, 2011, 22:45

Originally Posted by Ivan

Just for grins, I poked around a bit today looking for good drawings of the Ju-87D. I found some really excellent ones for the Ju-87B, but unfortunately not the D model.

- Ivan.

How about this one?

Attachment 44513 http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/3vue..._ju87d2_3v.jpg

Why not a B? More representative of the "golden Age" of the Stuka...

**Ivan** · July 26th, 2011, 05:22

Hi Hubbabubba,

I was thinking more along the lines of something like this:
http://imageshack.us/f/202/page115.jpg/

Careful though. This image is heavy. I even found the book that this came from (published by Kagero in their Monografie series). It doesn't have a D model drawing.

I like building the best version of an aircraft and the D is the better version. There already are a couple B models out that are quite reasonable.

- Ivan.

**Ivan** · July 29th, 2011, 05:43

Junkers Jumo 211J-1
1420 HP @ 2600 RPM 1.35 ATA
I believe the prop is 3.3 meters diameter.

D-1 through D-3 used the same wing as the B series.
The D-5 had a longer wing which I believe comes to a sharper point at the tip.

I am still trying to figure out which of the D models was the best. If I were to build one, it would have the dive brakes even though most were removed in the field.

- Ivan.

**smilo** · July 29th, 2011, 09:45

Originally Posted by No Dice

I also have a Lysander AFX that I have not posted, Anyone want it.

Dave

hello Dave, just checked this one out.
low and behold, it's the James Elwood model.
one of my all time faves to fly.

hello Ivan,
long ago, you gave me a link to a site
that was dedicated to unfinished models.
by chance, do you still have that link
and would you please share it again?

**Ivan** · July 29th, 2011, 16:02

http://www.freeflightdesign.org/military.html

Hi Smilo,

Is this the place you were thinking of? I generally find lots of good stuff here. I linked to the Military Aircraft which is generally what I am interested in.

The dive speed of the Stuka B is 600 kph (375 mph)
The dive speed of the Stuka D is 650 kph (400 mph)

Bomb release is around 1500 feet.

- Ivan.

**smilo** · July 29th, 2011, 16:23

yup, that's the place...thanks

___

___i'm off to double check.

**Ivan** · August 8th, 2011, 05:23

Does that Lysander AFX have a 3D Cowl Ring and Engine? Many years ago, I modified a version I downloaded to add those features and sent it back to Mr. Elwood. I also changed the Propeller on that plane.

- Ivan.

**Ivan** · August 12th, 2011, 15:57

Is there any interest out there for a Ju 88 Night Fighter? I don't I have ever seen one for CFS. I am not proposing a project. I am just curious. BTW, this was a plane that was capable of just over 400 mph at 30,000 feet which is pretty hot stuff if you aren't a Mosquito.

- Ivan.