Conspicuous by Their Absence

***No Dice*** · May 7th, 2011, 19:40

Ivan, Best of Wishes to " Anna Honey" and Mr. Mom.
As far as the Stuka, I have yet to see an " Ivan" quality model or one even close. IF you find one ( anybody) I would love to see it.

Dave www.thefreeflightsite.com

**smilo** · May 7th, 2011, 20:03

Originally Posted by No Dice

I am with Hubba on the #5 , Would settle for #2 and in all of your free time would love a good Stuka Dive bomber.

Dave www.thefreeflightsite.com

well, there's always this little beauty.
it may not be up to Ivan's standards,
but, it ain't bad, either.
it's the best one i've seen.

***No Dice*** · May 7th, 2011, 20:47

Smilo,
Where Do I get The Stuka ?

Dave

**Ivan** · May 7th, 2011, 22:50

Hey Smilo,

I'll take one of those also. It looks a bit like a Ju-87B rather than a Ju-87D, but it is pretty.

BTW, What do you all think of the Hawker Hurricane Mk.II as a Tutorial subject?

- Ivan.

**Dave Cumming** · May 8th, 2011, 02:34

#5 would be my preference.

Someone in CFS2 has just completed a Fiat G55. It was another very nice Italian plane and supposed to outfly spitfires and Fw190s.

**smilo** · May 8th, 2011, 06:12

okay guys, here's the story;
several years ago, i was given
a copy of the Ju87B-2 10_LG1
in it were the textures you see
in the screen shot.

a few years later,
i was given a package
that was called FS Classics.
low and behold, the Stuka was in it,
all be it with different textures,
along with many other fine examples.

jeepers, there was even documentation.

here's the rub, it turns out
that it was a payware package by
2000 Interactive Associates (CDC) Ltd.
just for fun, google it

here's a line from the document;
All rights reserved. You may use this software for
personal use only. You may not transfer any part to any other party, online service or the Internet.

needless to say,
with all of the brew-ha ha about piracy,
i am more than a little leery
about passing this stuff around.
it doesn't matter
that i think these files
are past their prime,
are dead in the water,
and should be available.
no matter

so, here's the deal,
i am, currently, very busy
and don't have the time to follow this up.
if someone here would like to
get permission from these guys,
i would be pleased as punch
to offer the entire package at Dave's site,
or better yet, two packages.
it's a biggie...about 200mb

as enticement, here is a zip file
of the Luftwaffe documentation.
it's on the attachment size border line,
so i will have to add the RAF doc
in another post.

**smilo** · May 8th, 2011, 06:18

turns out i can't upload the RAF document.
it's 6.44mb
i'll see if i can split it.
or do you want me
to post it in another thread?

**Ivan** · May 8th, 2011, 07:13

Hi Smilo,
Now that I know what it is, don't worry about it. I think I might even already have a version of that plane though with a different paint job. From the sounds of it though, even if that model is quite good, a distributable SturzKampf Flugzeug is worthwhile.

Dave!
Haven't heard from you in a while. For CFS1, there is even a publicly available AFX for the Fiat G.55. I downloaded it way way back and did a lot of fixing to it for my own personal use. I didn't create this AFX, so I am not about to upload the model any place.
Recently I found M14Forum.com and have been spending a fair amount of time over there.

- Ivan.

**smilo** · May 8th, 2011, 07:34

i have others that i have acquired over the years,
but this one is the best
and PJ's paint really enhances it.

one of these days,
i should go through and organize
all of the stuff i have
spread all over the place.
now, there's an on going project.

maybe later, much later.
i'm currently approaching Cape Gloucester
in an A-20 in the Southwest Pacific Tour;
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...353#post579353
turning on final in a couple minutes

***hubbabubba*** · May 8th, 2011, 12:39

Originally Posted by Ivan

Hubbabubba,
Seems like your choice is very popular. I was kind of surprised that the Yak wasn't more popular since I don't believe anyone has actually done a good one. The Macchi fighters have at least a couple good examples.
(...)
- Ivan.

You're the one who asked! Any on the list would do, but the "Veltro" is one hot plane...

I was unaware of the asymmetry, so the Yak would do as well. It's your show

!

**Ivan** · May 8th, 2011, 14:30

The Asymmetry isn't THAT bad. Here is a site with some drawings I plan to use which illustrates the differences.

http://digilander.libero.it/enniotar...205Disegni.htm

I also picked up a book by Squadron / Signal that is a good reference.

- Ivan.

***No Dice*** · May 13th, 2011, 10:26

Smilo,
The Stuka you talked about is from the Luftwaffe Collection and is available at www.justflight.com in the boxed add-ons section. $8.15 US plus $7.00 shipping to US.

Dave

**smilo** · May 13th, 2011, 10:50

yup, after i posted,
i did a little digging and came up with the same thing,
although, i didn't notice the shipping charge.

even though it is a nice AC,
and there are other nice planes in the package,
i'd say that $15.15US is a bit spendy for a Stuka.
i mean, jeez, if you add the RAF package,
we're talkin' $30+US.

i can't help but wonder
how many sales they've made
in the past few years.
maybe someone could convince them
that it's time to offer both as freeware.

just a though...or two.

**Ivan** · May 13th, 2011, 20:13

From what I have seen, very often Payware isn't as good as stuff you can get for free. Perhaps with other simulators things are different? (No, I wasn't refering to planes I built.)

- Ivan.