I will take that puppy right now!
Dave :salute:
I will take that puppy right now!
Dave :salute:
I take it you got it already? There are already three downloads since I uploaded it after lunch today and that accounts for most of the people on this thread.
This is one of my favourite planes. I do like the later Corsairs better, but this version has never been released before. Lots of visual problems with it though.
- Ivan.
Jeeeez Ivan, I have it now
Why didn't you tell me you were releasing it in our email prior,
no time to talk...I have to take a look at this puppy.
Thanks Ivan, much appreciated
Dave www.thefreeflightsite.com
So what is the conclusion on the Birdcage Corsair?
Know of a good F6F Hellcat out there?
- Ivan.
Four Stars in my Book (high as it gets). :salute:
I have no good F6 Hellcat in my collection as of yet.
Dave www.thefreeflightsite.com
The Corsair flight model is one of the nicest handling in my opinion. It fits with what I have read about the aircraft's handling and it is kind of surprising how low the stall speed is on such a big heavy bird.
I do have a couple Hellcats also (Both a F6F-3 Hellcat Mk.I and a F6F-5 Hellcat Mk.II), but they need cleaned up before a re-release. The F6F-3 was released years ago, but the F6F-5 has never been released before.
I have wondered a bit why F was chosen as a suffix for Grumman. The U for the Corsair wasn't obvious but did make sense for Universal which was apparently the owners of Chance Vought. C would not have worked because it had already been used for the F?C fighters by Curtiss.
- Ivan.
Ivan,
Seems that the F is the Grumman designation for the planes primary role as a fighter.
Seems all grumman fighters carry the F designation. The second Letter seems to be its secondary role, such as F again for Fighter, W for Wide area Radar, S for Submarine striker. Then BF Bomber Fighter.
??
Dave
I think in the early days the US Navy and US Army were able to use different designations with the navy using F for Fighter whilst the US Army using P for Pursuit. I think they merged around the time of the Korean War and settled on F.
The Lockheed Shooting Star was a P-80 but the last batch were labelled F-80.
Dave
Hi No Dice,
That was pretty close.
F4F-3 can be broken down like this:
F - USN Designation for Fighter
4 - Fourth Design from the Manufacturer - No Number if FIRST Design of this type.
F - Grumman
-3 - Third Model (Second Major Change from the Original)
Thus
F4U-4
U - Universal Aircraft (Chance Vought)
PBY-5A
PB - USN Designation for a Patrol Bomber
No Number - First PB from the Manufacturer.
Y - Consolidated
-5A - Modification to the Fifth Model.
Thus
SBD-3
SB - USN Designation for a Scout Bomber
D - Douglas
FG-1D (Corsair)
F - Fighter
G - Goodyear
TBF
TB - USN Designation for a Torpedo Bomber
TBM
M - General Motors
Funny thing is that the Japanese used almost exactly the same system and the USN believed it was too complicated to figure out. To to fair, the Japanese used several systems concurrently and their Army and Navy used different designations for the same parts.
- Ivan.
Hi Dave Cumming,
I don't know what the final arrangement was, but I can say that THIS happened:
The F8U Crusader became
the F-8 Crusader.
The F4H Phantom II became
the F-4 Phantom.
The A4D Skyhawk became
the A-4 Skyhawk.
How about aircraft such as the Japanese
Mitsubishi A6M2-N "Rufe"
or the
Kawanishi N1K2-J Shiden-KAI?
- Ivan.
.............ufo
sometimes the magic works.
sometimes it doesn't.
Not a UFO,
Smilo everyone can see it's a Piper 180
Dave
not even close.......no cigar
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no completion promises, either
sometimes the magic works.
sometimes it doesn't.
OK, I'll get it this time,
It's either an Aichi B7A " Grace" or a Bellanca Cruisair
Dave
Looks like a Nakajima A6M2-N Zero to me.... Not a bad one either.Originally Posted by Ivan
I like your colours!
- Ivan.
nope, not yet.
now, with an ever so subtle hint.
i'm beginning to worry
about the appearance of this thing.
the first shot was taken
from my wide screen,
which tends to stretch the view.
...a lot
this one is 800x600
sometimes the magic works.
sometimes it doesn't.
If that is stretched, then perhaps eyeballing it isn't working really well. It looks pretty good from that screenshot but not if it has been stretched.
The principal dimensions MUST be close to even have a chance at getting the shape right.
BTW, was my guess reasonably close?
- Ivan.
a minor misunderstanding,
the model is not stretched.
comparing the shots in posts 311 and 316
shows a significant difference in resolution
between standard and wide screen monitors
which causes the visual stretch.
(happens with panels all the time)
model length and height are both a little short,
but the float is not in the correct position, yet.
we shall see
she is definitely not Japanese
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last night when i shut down ad2k,
a small window popped up in french.
i don't understand french.
i restarted the program, just to see what
and everything is gone!
i even made sure to save before i shut it down.
crap and drat!
i wonder what happened.
the only saving grace is that
the coordinates are marked on the drawings
and i wrote them down in a notebook.
now i am extra nervous and will have to start
a special backup system.
it's always somethin'
sometimes the magic works.
sometimes it doesn't.
Smilo,
Please look in my design section under the AD2000 software, I have posted a compile fix.
Sorry thought you new about it.
Dave
www.thefreeflightsite.com
thanks Dave,
but i think that fix is for ad2k2,
not ad2k, unless i'm missing something.
so it goes
sometimes the magic works.
sometimes it doesn't.
Hi Smilo,
You could always do this in AF99. Depending on the level of detail you are intending, I don't think it would be all that difficult to do the Arado 196. That plane has a lot of curves which might get expensive.
BTW, About an hour and a half ago (around 11 PM local time), my daily driver car (Mazda 626) was smashed up pretty badly while sitting in front of my house. Hit and Run. We figure someone was heading up the street and tapped a Minivan on the LEFT side of the streed, overcorrected and made a really solid hit on the left rear corner of my car. Impact put the two passenger side wheels up on the curb. Car is not driveable at this point.
Just hate it whennat happens!
- Ivan.
If you need a translation, I know someone who could help...
BTW- I'm not sure that you are really using AD2000. You told me once that it was using z-buffering. Well... only AD2002 does...
If I'm not mistaken, Ivan's right; this is the Arado Ar 196. The Graf Spee had one.
Torture numbers and they'll say anything.
Hubbabubba, Touche à tout.
Darn. I was hoping to be a bit more subtle than that. In a few minutes I get to see how the car looks in all its pieces in the daylight. Gray, Overcast and Raining. Kind of fits the mood.
- Ivan.
first and foremost,
sorry to hear about your car.
what a drag...life in the city.
of course, we get our weirdness
out here in the boonies, too.
ar196 it is, asper a suggestion by No Dice.
yes, i'm sure it could be done in af99,
but this project is mainly the subject
for my ad2k learning process.
which, btw, will hopefully enable me
to build more detailed multi's.
...my long term goal.
i am positive i am using ad2k.
i have double, triple and even quad checked.
when i compile, i am given the option
of building in fs98/cfs or fs2000.
if i am not mistaken,
the z buffering process began with fs2000,
hence, the compiling option.
the program also comes with tutorials
for both fs98/cfs and fs2000
and also explains the difference.
so, that's my story and i'm sticking to it.
oh yeah, who do you suppose
the first person i thought of was
when the window popped up in french?
silly me, i should have taken a screen shot.
live and learn...maybe next time.
sometimes the magic works.
sometimes it doesn't.
Hi Smilo,
Just out of curiosity, why did you pick the Arado 196 floatplane to work on? It certainly isn't the simplest project around.
- Ivan.
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