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    In need of some overclocking advice please

    I've never tried overclocking, though I've always wanted to. My (lack of) comprehension of the correct way to go about it, has kept me from trying.

    Help in doing so would be great. I've always been worried about blowing it up...

    ASUS P4C800E Deluxe / MB
    P4 Prescott 3.0e / CPU
    Corsair Twin X - CMX5123200C2PT / 400mhz / CL2
    Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu / Cooler
    ATI HD3850 / 512mb / GDDR3 / AGP

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    harleyman
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    If you PM me your e mail I will send you a nice guide that would be a great starting point.

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    I need all the help I can get. I'd be better off if someone came to my house and did it for me!!!

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    I did the Google thing and came up with this. Same CPU, same memory. It's confusing though.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/12...t-overclocking

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    @ Harleyman

    Email rec'd.

    The info you sent would make more sense if I had a duo or quad. The more I read, the more confused it got:isadizzy: Iiii...think I'll not try to decipher that. No offense, but I'm greener than a Granny Smith apple when it comes to this stuff...haha!!

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    Step 1 Get the latest BIOS and flash it
    http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=cFuVCr9bXXCckmcK

    Step 2 Use the AiBooster to utility to overclock since you are new to this-get it here:
    http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=cFuVCr9bXXCckmcK

    Step 3 Voltages
    find out what the max voltage is for your Prescott Core P4 and set the voltage inside the AiBooster before you start moving up FSB
    http://processorfinder.intel.com/Det...px?sSpec=SL79L this gives voltage range

    Also find out what the max voltage is on your Corsair Twin X memory-but don't move that up to max do it incrementally.

    Warning make sure you have a great CPU and fan Heatsink the OEM will not do

    This should help you get started
    Ted
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    Little steps. That's me!!

    Thanks Ted

    I'm running BIOS v1019 currently. The latest is v1024 beta. The word beta scares me. I don't like them.

    Any thoughts on which I should get?

    Here's my set-up for the fan/heatsink. Will I be ok?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0A-Cu&x=7&y=29

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    Quote Originally Posted by OleBoy View Post
    I need all the help I can get. I'd be better off if someone came to my house and did it for me!!!


    Well...If we were not on opposite coasts I would...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harleyman View Post
    Well...If we were not on opposite coasts I would...
    LOL.....I appreciate the gesture. I'll have the beer on ice when you get here :ernae:

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    harleyman
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    My Bust...Overlooked the single core P4..

    Sorry..

    BUT Da man got ya covered..


    Beta is OK for a bios....

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    Flashing BIOS.....I'll be back

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    harleyman
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    Ok....

    Just touch nothing while it flashes....Mouse..nothing..

    kill your AV too and any programs open too.

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    Successfully updated to v1024

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    sSpec Number:
    SL79L
    CPU Speed: 3E GHz
    PCG:
    Bus Speed: 800 MHz
    Bus/Core Ratio: 15
    L2 Cache Size: 1 MB
    L2 Cache Speed: 3 GHz

    Package Type: 478 pin
    Manufacturing Technology: 90 nm
    Core Stepping: C0
    CPUID String: 0F33h
    Thermal Design Power: 89W
    Thermal Specification: 69.1°C
    VID Voltage Range: 1.25V-1.525V <------1.52 is the max voltage for the CPU??

    Ted was not implying that I crank the voltage to the MAX of the CPU......was he?

    Here's the settings as of right now. Nothing touched yet.


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    Nope that is the range it can handle...go up incrementally and then check for stability using Prime95 and memtest86 all freeware
    Ted

    I would try to crank it to 1.35 and see if it will hold 3.4Ghz there if not crank a little higher voltage- Check your temps often
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    Seems I can't crank up the cpu through AiBooster. Or, if I can, I'm not seeing where too do it.

    I also see that the multiplier is locked. I read somewhere that there's a different BIOS that unlocks it. I can't trace that either.

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    You will not be able to change the multiplier on that CPU, so let's see if these instructions will help you:

    ASUS P4C800E Deluxe / MB
    P4 Prescott 3.0e / CPU
    Corsair Twin X - CMX5123200C2PT / 400mhz / CL2
    Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu / Cooler
    ATI HD3850 / 512mb / GDDR3 / AGP

    How to Overclock using the BIOS and AiOverclocker

    First let me tell you that your memory is probably going to hold back anything you do to your CPU because unless you use a better grade of memory your higher settings will mean nothing if your memory lags behind but with this info you should be able to OC a little.

    With the P4P800, you should not use the presets:
    First go in the BIOS to the advanced settings and "Jumper Free" configuration.

    Then lock the AGP/PCI fqcy on 66.66/33.33. Because your RAM is Corsair 3200, you will not be able to overclock at 1:1 ratio (400 MHz) and will have to reduce the ratio to 5:4 (320 MHz) in the "DRAM frequency" setting.

    Set the "AI overclock tuner" to "manual". Now you can start to increase the FSB speed under "CPU external frequency".

    Do this step by step with steps of 5 MHz and check each time for system stability.

    Theoretically, your RAM would be able to support a fsb speed of 250 MHz which brings it back to it's nominal frequency (250*4/5 = 200), but your Prescott CPU will surely not make it without extra cooling and voltage adjustments. You could however expect to be able to reach a 230 MHz fsb speed (cpu at 3.45 MHz) without trouble.

    After each new setting, watch your CPU temps with the Asus probe!!!

    Note that at that speed your RAM is still underclocked and that depending on the application, this could result in lower total performance. What you win in CPU speed, you loose in RAM speed. Therefore, I would not recommand to overclock your system very high if you don't plan to change your RAM (for example for Corsair PC4000 or higher). You would have to run your current memory voltage up to 2.8V and timings of 3-4-4-8 to OC-doubltful that your memory will hold these timings

    Why use this memory the answer is found here: http://www.pcstats.com/artvnl.cfm?articleID=1907

    One last point is about some Asus special features: the "performance mode" and the "memory acceleration mode" (in the chipset settings).

    First try to disable them all (MAM disabled, Performance mode on standard), because those could cause your system to refuse to boot. Once you've reached a fsb that's high enough and stable, try to enable the MAM and later to set the performance on turbo. Don't do both operations at the same time.

    Just be warned that if your system refuses to boot after too much agressive settings, you will probably need to disconnect the power plug of your system for one or two minutes before it accepts to boot again.

    Hope this helps
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  18. #18
    Well, I guess I can't OC. No matter what I try, it locks. Makes me wonder if my CPU, memory or MB is about to crap out. Or the VC even. Hope not. I can't afford a new machine yet.

    I since set everything back to their default.

    Today I fired up FS2004. Was going to take a jaunt over the mountains to do some exploring. Nope. Can't do it. For some strange reason I'm getting a LOT of artifacts and it's locking up.

    I don't know if this is happening due to my trying to OC my rig or not. Could be coincidence. Awhile back when I was flying in FSX, I was getting LOTS of artifacts. Which forced me to run default settings. FSX was worse than FS9 then. Now, with what's going on, I can't even get in a flight on FS04.

    I deleted the FS9.cfg to see if that was the issue. It wasn't.

    Oh well. Poop happens!!

  19. #19
    harleyman
    Guest
    That sounds like Vuid card heat..

    If you use ATI go into Overdrive..Unlock it , and set your fan speed at 100% for a test or two..Then driop back to maybe 60%


    If Nvidia..Use EVGA Percission to set the fan speeds up.

  20. #20
    I unlocked it. But there's no where to advance the fan speed

  21. #21
    harleyman
    Guest
    I see...You have the 3850...Great card but no adjustments on the fan...


    Use HWMonitor to see your vid card temps..

    If over 55 -65 you need something like Riva Tuner to set the fan speed up..


    But check themps first....http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php

  22. #22
    alright, on my way to CPUID

  23. #23

  24. #24
    harleyman
    Guest
    Hmmm


    Plenty cool...If its artifacting at that temp you might be loosing the card...

    That temp is great..

    It may be a corrupted driver.....You can uninstall it and reinstall it again and see...

    What catalist version are you running? If you are running the newest 9.9 then you need to use a driver cleaner in safe mode after you uninstall it...If you go down in Catalist

    That card may run better with the Catalist 9.4 or 9.6




    have you looked at this ATI set up ? http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...ad.php?t=16294

  25. #25
    v9.7 is what I had. After some more testing, I've come to a conclusion that the card is going out. When exactly....who knows. I reverted back several versions of catalyst drivers. Stopping at v8.5 which was the only known good driver for this particular card. I'll run it for as long as I can. I've got a ATIX850XT Pro for back-up.

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