The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**giruXX** · October 24th, 2016, 07:29

Keith you got it!

Have a big gulp of your favourite

I was fascinated by those "invasion stripes" on the underside which make it so different from the mostly green upper side. The little rest was image processing to fool google image search.

**Dev One** · October 24th, 2016, 07:55

Thank you gxx, just off to pour one out...
Meanwhile something I hope has not been offered before & goes back to the 'dark ages'.
Keith

**pomme homme** · October 24th, 2016, 08:10

Oh, these clever people who have been initiated in the dark art of photoshopping. I consider myself to be doing well if I manage to obscure the registration mark!

***Moses03*** · October 24th, 2016, 08:28

Keith- Is that the British Army / Cody No. 1 Aeroplane from 1909?

**giruXX** · October 24th, 2016, 09:35

S. F. Cody flying his Michelin Cup Biplane. (Real Photographs Photo, according to Putnam)

**Dev One** · October 24th, 2016, 10:44

Not sure of the correct identity as I have it as the Cody IIc, but then there were plenty of derivatives I guess, so having to choose the winner it has to be.......

.......Moses who was the first with a Cody answer.

Over to Texas
Keith

***Moses03*** · October 24th, 2016, 11:36

Well gX really had the exact designation I believe, but have to go with the awarding of the beer. The tiny wheels on each wingtip were a clue to the Cody machines.

Much too kind Keith!

Here is an easy one that should not be on the board very long...

**pomme homme** · October 24th, 2016, 12:07

Bratu 220?

***Moses03*** · October 24th, 2016, 15:12

for Mike on the French/Romanian trimotor.

**pomme homme** · October 25th, 2016, 01:45

Thank you, Kevin. Although I have to confess that I identified it so readiliy because I had several images of it saved with the intention of using it myself! But as I cannot, here's an ugly brute made worse by a pixelatorily challenged photograph - although it's marginally better than the one copy of the same photograph that is available on the internet (for anyone, heaven forfend, who might be tempted to use google image search).

**giruXX** · October 25th, 2016, 02:00

indeed

Looking on https://www.j2mcl-planeurs.net/ it is easy: Bonnet-Clément BC-7

**pomme homme** · October 25th, 2016, 02:47

Congratulations, giruxx. You've found the poor image of what is either known as the Bonnet biplan motoplaneur or the Bonnet-Clément BC-7. Over to you.

**giruXX** · October 25th, 2016, 03:16

Now with the re-touched picture

Here is a wee thing (I start to love lefty’s favourite word

) that isn’t a motor glider nor a glider.

***Moses03*** · October 25th, 2016, 03:50

This has to be another Spratt design. I found what looks to be the same aircraft with the reg N910Z described as the 1939 effort by Spratt's son George. Odd thing is that the 1939 entry at Aerofiles shows this to be a powered design and not the glidery looking version gX posted. Also the reg if different. (Must be a pusher blade that the grainy photo is not revealing).

I think I have the wagons circled anyways.

**giruXX** · October 25th, 2016, 05:49

Thanks Moses03

Here is the full thing and the according Aerofiles entry:
Controlwing 106 1964 = 2pOhwMFb. POP: 1 [N910Z].

I think that the registration is a proof for its motorization. Interestingly, Aerofiles states the year 1964 while the thing itself looks much elder.

The moving pusher prop seems to be lost in grains and partly hidden by the V-tail.

***Moses03*** · October 25th, 2016, 07:49

Not sure what to post these days. Everyone has their likes and dislikes for eras and types of aircraft.

How about this one?

**wout** · October 25th, 2016, 09:00

Hi Kevin

Li`l Trouble, this mix by Mark V. Horn. Collect Monocoupe, Aeronca, Tayorvcraft and Piper parts and (reportedly?) the former Cliff Midwing and end up with your own sporty cabriolet.
I am only somewhat puzzled by the fact that I have seen a photo with Bob Horn painted on the fuselage.

**cthornburg** · October 25th, 2016, 09:05

looks like Stits Playboy. Only problem with homebuilts many variations. Gear is different.

Chris

***Moses03*** · October 25th, 2016, 09:22

There goes Wout, tooting his Horn again with the Li'l Trouble.

Over to you.

**wout** · October 25th, 2016, 12:28

A floatplane. Donot look at the usual suspects.

**wout** · October 25th, 2016, 22:11

That is not a Continental or Lycoming engine up front and donot search on the American continent.

**wout** · October 26th, 2016, 04:38

This was a one-off aircraft because of the floats, which was a modification. But some 200 of these aircraf were were built in standard form.

**giruXX** · October 26th, 2016, 10:35

@wout: I am confused. Do your given constraints, i.e.,
• no Continental or Lycoming engine,
• not from the American continent
apply to all of these ca. 200 aircraft or just to the floater only?

**wout** · October 26th, 2016, 11:50

Hi giruXX

Sorry for the confusion. I meant to make clear that around 200 were built in standard form (conventional gear) and with a non-US engine of 130hp to 155hp (depending on the sub-model). Since the floater is not US/Canadian designed, no reason to look at all those Cubs, Pacers Tri-Pacer and other Piper bushplane/floatplane conversions flying in the US/Canada

**wout** · October 26th, 2016, 22:18

The floater is an Auster J/5G Autocar.
The J/5G was the variant also known as the Cirrus Autocar because of the 155hp Blackburn Cirrus Major 3 engine.
The unique floatplane was from Australia (VH-TTH) and first flew 1971. She was lost in 1973 and I assume that the designation J/5G-A1 was not official for her.

OH please