This, Sir, is the Albatros L59 single seater of 1923 (probably D632 as only one was built)....Originally Posted by Dev One
Cheers
BG
This, Sir, is the Albatros L59 single seater of 1923 (probably D632 as only one was built)....
Cheers
BG
Well done BG, thats exactly it!
Too distinctive I'm afraid, although I would never have guessed it!
Over to you
Keith
Thanks DevOne!
Above you will find my colourful mysterious item!
Good luck
Cheers!
BG
Hi Baragouin
Your colourful offering is the MAI-223, developed by the Moscow Aviation Institute.
Hi Wout!Hi Baragouin
Your colourful offering is the MAI-223, developed by the Moscow Aviation Institute.
You're of course rightthis being the MAI223 (quite an intriguing Aircraft I think)....
As I have the opportunity to post you would you be kind enough to supply some factual information concerning the SOKO 1 which you posted not long ago. I read with great interest the link connected with that Aircraft ("Paluba" etc.) but couldn't find information about date of first flight, what engine was fitted etc.
You may reply by PM if so you desire...
Cheers
BG
Baragouin
Will send you PM with details on the Soko 1. (will try to-morrow).
Next challenge is prossibly white and seems the wind is coming from the right
Thanks Wout in advance for the SOKO....Baragouin
Will send you PM with details on the Soko 1. (will try to-morrow).
Next challenge is prossibly white and seems the wind is coming from the right
concerning the new mystery this looks to me like the Moeller Stormo 3V3 "Temperolus" of 1936....
BG
Hi Baragouin
Not the Moeller Stormo 3V3 "Temperolus" of 1936, afaik.
Seems you are already in the right European region and era (assuming the Temperolus is from Italy(?).
This small aircraft was named after a fly that causes serious deceases in the tropics.
Can you please confirm the PM on the Soko was received?
This is the pic I'm referring to
Well Wout the above pic is the Möller Stormo: isn't that the same Aircraft of your post?
Soko information received with many thanks!
Cheers
BG
Hi Baragouin
The 2 aircraft indeed look like twins, but I donot think there is any connection. Another photo shows my challenge upside-down after engine failure and that was the end of the ....... and this happened before WW2.
However, the country of origin was invaded by the country using the symbol on your Temporolus` tail
please see
I posted the Stomo a long time ago and find this very interesting. It appears that at least one ended up in Poland after the war - there is a photo of it registered SP-DLL - but it had a different engine from the tiny 18hp effort in the original.
It seems unlikely that a design so similar could be originated elsewhere, so could Walter's mystery be a Stomo re-engined and re-named in Poland ??
In relation to Wout's mystery let's recap all the data we have sofar:
1 - small Touring Aircraft with a two cylinders engine
2 - country of origin: presumably Germany
3 - Era: before WWII (I would say sometime in the thirties)
4 - nicknamed after an obnoxious fly (the only one that comes to my mind is "Tze Tze")
Oh yes probably re-engined in Poland with registration SP-DLL
Is there someone who could translate all the above in a full identity?
BG
Could not find info an (possible) relationship between the 2 designs. The challenge had a 33hp Mengin 2Y engine and was lost in the engine failure accident. Part of the country of origin now has a new name, as do other parts.
I think BG is closest in distance. And donot forget to associate name of the nasty decease causing fly with this tiny aircraft!
Will give solution and some links to-night (if unsolved by then). The designers first name was Anton
There is, of course, yet another doppelganger, the Rubik Pinty.......
question is, who copied who ?????
BG`s message and mine must have passed each other on the electronic highway (12.33 and 12.39 hrs.)
BG is correct on the (nick)name and era
On who copied who I choose to remain politically correct (meaning I have no opinion)
ps please note change concerning country of origin
With all the clues I stumbled upon the Kuhelj Tse Tse of 1938.Slovenia that is? Or part of Yugoslavia...dunno really.
The aircraft is the Tse-Tse by designer Anton Kuhelj from Yugoslavia (now Slovenia) and built/flown 1938ish.
Mr. Kuhelj designed a couple of other light planes.
If interested please Google "kuhelj tse-tse" and you hit several sites (in Serbian) which provide also some technical details.
I propose OH please
Looks like wout popped in and replied before he saw my answer. No worries, will press on with this chilled biplane.
Looks like a Gee Bee Model A ?
Very good Mike.It is documented as an "A" model but the official Granville designation is the E-1. Nothing on Aerofiles on it.
Over to you.
An aside on the Tse-Tse....amazing how similar it looks to the Miles Hobby, except for the cranked wing & its also about the same age!
Keith
The Gee Bee A is on Aerofiles, Kevin, and the side-by-side seating and unusual fin/rudder are what gave it away, but the cowling on yours is a lot shorter........
Here's another slightly later light aircraft - a very skinny one - let's see who can get it before I have to post the side view !!
I meant to say the E-1 biplane is not on Aerofiles. The Model P biplane is also undocumented.
Attached is the untouched photo submitted by Bob Granville himself.
Here is reference to the mystery "E" model, this time with an inline Cirrus engine.
http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft31584.htm
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