The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**pomme homme** · July 4th, 2015, 04:18

Originally Posted by lefty

Yes, BG, you know how the Inuit have 50 words for snow, well, here in Scotland we have about 500 for rain........'chucking it down' means the same as bucketing, lashing, pelting, stotting, pi**ing down, etc etc.

And the reason for today's weather ? Yesterday I helped my neighbour install an automatic watering system........

That seems the best possible application for Dr Johnson's aphorism - 'the triumph of hope over experience'!

I'm glad to say it's cooler here today, only 29⁰ in the shade - although in the sun at 13:00, when I returned to the car, it was reading 37⁰. You're welcome to the 8⁰ difference, if it helps you, lefty. Perhaps I can send it in an insulated package?
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**Dev One** · July 4th, 2015, 05:39

Another euphemism for BG is ...'Its raining Cats & Dogs' - I think the english equivalent of 'Il pleut des cordes'...what say you PH? Not good on Italian I'm afraid, so cannot offer an Italian phrase!
Keith

**pomme homme** · July 4th, 2015, 06:02

I'm equally unable to help in Italian. It wasn't on the menu when I was at school. But as to French, I've enquired of our farming neighbour's twelve year old son - who is the fount of toute ma connaissance française - and he tells me that also I can use:

il pleut à verse
la pluie battante
il tombe des cordes

as well as, wait for it, after all, he is the son of an agriculteur -

il pleut comme un vache qui pisse

which he found immensely amusing, whilst it elicited a disapproving scowl from his mother!

**Baragouin** · July 4th, 2015, 06:54

Hello boys and girls!
Awfully sorry for keeping you waiting and herebelow you will find my today's grainy mistery which I'm sure will be solved very quickly:

I find the linguistic debate extremely interesting and thanks to Lefty I've learned quite a few additional verbs for "raining".
Alas in italian we don't have the abundance of expressions they have in Scotland actually the only one that comes to my mind right now is:
"Piove a catinelle"
Though I could add the following in german (which reminds me of having been a "Gastarbeiter" in Frankfurt many many years ago)
"es giesst in Strömen".
Additionally I find very humorous P.H.'s idiom:
"Il pleut comme une vache qui pisse"
Cheers
BG

**lefty** · July 4th, 2015, 08:34

Trouble with these US trainers is that there are several that look very similar - think this one is the St Louis YPT-15 ?

**Baragouin** · July 4th, 2015, 11:16

Originally Posted by lefty

Trouble with these US trainers is that there are several that look very similar - think this one is the St Louis YPT-15 ?

Quite right Lefty that's it!
Please carry on....
Cheers
BG

**lefty** · July 4th, 2015, 15:07

Time for something different - a wee whirly thing with a very large exhaust pipe - the kind of thing I put on my wee MG to try and impress - fooled nobody !

**Green** · July 4th, 2015, 18:47

G'day Lefty.

This machine...

**lefty** · July 4th, 2015, 21:23

That's the one, G. Apparently in a museum somewhere......

**Green** · July 5th, 2015, 00:44

Thanks mate.

I'll go with this one...

**lefty** · July 5th, 2015, 01:21

Waco CTO ? Don't know who the Burt Lancaster lookalike is, though..

**Green** · July 5th, 2015, 03:11

Well done mate! Yes the Waco CTO > 240A.

The guy on the right? Yeah, he does look like a young Burt. He's José Candido de Murici Filho.

Cheers!

**lefty** · July 5th, 2015, 06:05

Instinctively went to 'Latin American Air Wars' and took it from there !

Here's something that is not from Latin America, nor indeed any America....

**Baragouin** · July 5th, 2015, 09:01

Originally Posted by lefty

Instinctively went to 'Latin American Air Wars' and took it from there !

Here's something that is not from Latin America, nor indeed any America....

Possibly an Aero A01?
BG

**lefty** · July 5th, 2015, 13:35

Close, BG, this was also related to the Hansa-Brandenburg C.1, but came from another West European country. A one-off, I fear, powered by a Hiero engine...

**lefty** · July 6th, 2015, 06:05

Right, we'll put this one out of its misery. This is A-21, the Steir 'Austria', a four-seater biplane made by the Steir Aviators Union of Graz, Austria in 1925. Basically a Brandenburg...

OH, chaps, please !

**Dev One** · July 6th, 2015, 23:02

Something slightly more modern then...
Keith

**wout** · July 6th, 2015, 23:50

Hi Keith

The first (the one with the indigenous ENMASA Tigre G-IVB engine) of a series of 2 aircraft. Have seen it with following designations:
D-750-1 (design, Emil Dewoitine), I-18 (Iberavia which started propject) AVD-12 (AISA, completed the project), XL-10-1 (Spanish AF).
Number 2 was the AVD-12C (XL-10B) with Continental O-470-1 engine.

The Spanish AF ordered the CASA C-127 (Dornier Do.27A-1 instead.

Anyone can tell me what AVD stands for? (please, please !)

**lefty** · July 7th, 2015, 01:26

This one's been thrashed around in various forums, as you know, Walter, and I suspect nobody really knows where the 'AVD' came from. My best guess would be 'AVioneta' meaning light aircraft in Spanish, and 'D' for Dewoitine, who may or may not have designed it ! Apparently not as good a machine as it looked.

**Dev One** · July 7th, 2015, 04:01

Wout - over to you as you are correct

.
(Thinks must see if I can find something harder next time.....!)
Lefty thanks also for the explanation.
Keith

**wout** · July 7th, 2015, 09:21

hi Keith

Thank you. Next one for the floating community.

**wout** · July 8th, 2015, 01:53

No takers yet? She is European

**lefty** · July 8th, 2015, 02:53

Your local neighbourhood floater freak has been very quiet, Walter, because you have sneaked in a toughie !

Decided right away it was French or Italian, but can find precious few pusher biplanes with N-struts !! Bits of Macchi, bits of Savoia, and I've been right through my book of French hydros.....

Will keep slogging...

**Baragouin** · July 8th, 2015, 04:41

Originally Posted by wout

hi Keith

Thank you. Next one for the floating community.

Could it be an Ikarus Typ IO?
BG

**lefty** · July 8th, 2015, 05:02

Unfortunately, BG, when I Google 'Ikarus', all I get is a page full of buses !!!

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