The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**lefty** · February 22nd, 2015, 13:08

Thanks G, here's a wee chopper with no soy sauce in sight....

**Green** · February 22nd, 2015, 13:30

Just not Chinese without Soy Sauce!

Your wee chopper - looks like the SNCASO SO.1110 Ariel? Seems to be a few models made and I can't quite match yours yet...

**Green** · February 22nd, 2015, 17:40

Found the same photo Lefty - called the Sud-Ouest SO 1100 "with tailboom". However, they've named it Anel I. I'm guessing the person responsible is hyperopic and thought the "r" and "i" looked like an "n".

Or there really could be a Sud-Ouest SO 1100 Anel I in Google Land somewhere....?

**lefty** · February 22nd, 2015, 21:47

No, it's definitely Ariel 1, G ! Just what I'm sure is a wee typo, though, it's the Sud-Ouest 1110, not 1100....... Over to you -

**Green** · February 22nd, 2015, 23:24

Thanks Lefty!

**wout** · February 22nd, 2015, 23:44

Hi Mr. Green

The ASRO-4T by German designer Alfons Siemetzki around 1965ish?

**Green** · February 22nd, 2015, 23:50

Well done wout....and quick!

**wout** · February 24th, 2015, 01:03

To make it 3 in a row. A small co-axial heli that has been around for a couple of years.

**Green** · February 24th, 2015, 14:22

The Russian Rotorfly R-30? (some have different tails?)

**wout** · February 24th, 2015, 23:47

Hi Mr. Green

That is the one. Understand development started by Kumerton Design Bureau (linked to Kamov. hence the rotor system) as Rotorfly and later renamed as RI-30 Eagle when Russsian/German j/v named Rotor International continued.

Your turn, please!

**Green** · February 25th, 2015, 02:27

Thanks wout, but I think it's time for open house.

Cheers.

***Moses03*** · February 25th, 2015, 06:59

Interesting run of small helos there.

This one was unknown to me until recently. A small twin.

**lefty** · February 25th, 2015, 07:25

Blimey ! - very obscure, methinks... those props look a tad long - or else they let the tyres down....

**Baragouin** · February 25th, 2015, 07:38

Originally Posted by Moses03

Interesting run of small helos there.

This one was unknown to me until recently. A small twin.

I have in my files two very similar items: one is the Lascurain "Celia" the other is the Lascurain (y Salinas) "Sport"....something to do with your mystery?
BG

***Moses03*** · February 25th, 2015, 09:38

Obscure model but the smallish company is well known.

BG- Not a Latin effort but I can see a rough connection with the Lascurain designs.

***Moses03*** · February 25th, 2015, 16:22

This should help. Powered by two CNA D.4 engines.

BG's part of Europe...

**Dev One** · February 25th, 2015, 23:09

Originally Posted by Moses03

Obscure model but the smallish company is well known.

BG- Not a Latin effort but I can see a rough connection with the Lascurain designs.

I read that as not being Rome latin! Now have to look east, not west!!!
Keith

**Baragouin** · February 26th, 2015, 02:05

Originally Posted by Moses03

This should help. Powered by two CNA D.4 engines.

BG's part of Europe...

Hi Moses!
It could easily be a product of the Compagnia Nazionale Aeronautica most of which are still obscure: after years of research I was able to gather only five different models but I know Others were built!
Therefore I'm mostly interested in getting this mystery solved!
BG

***Moses03*** · February 26th, 2015, 04:25

Yes, Italy! Not a CNA build except for the engines. The designer's previous side by side cockpit 1936 low wing trainer was more known.

**Baragouin** · February 26th, 2015, 05:25

Originally Posted by Moses03

Yes, Italy! Not a CNA build except for the engines. The designer's previous side by side cockpit 1936 low wing trainer was more known.

Maybe Laboratorio Artigianale Aeronautico? In 1940 they built a small twin engined Touring Aircraft having a vague resemblance to your mysterious item...
BG

***Moses03*** · February 26th, 2015, 07:22

Inspired guess BG but not of the LAA firm.

Okay, this one is obscure with only a couple of mentions on the net that I could track down! It's the Lombardi L.4 or AVIA-Lombardi L.4.

Attached the original photo.

Moving along, here is one that is not as obscure...