The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

**wout** · October 11th, 2015, 10:43

Hi Kevin

. Thanks. When I saw your pic, did not immediately recognize the Ott. Colourscheme etc., nut remembered the blunt nose. Attached photo is the best I have seen. Sadly engines were removed at the time.
Wished I had visisted Mr.Ott (for a better photo) when I was vacationing with my uncle during the 1970s. He and my aunt lived in Napa, Ca for decades. But the Ott was not yet in my files then!. Aerofiles may be wrong (c.1961). I have my details from EAA`s Sport Aviation and they mention 1966 or Sept.1967 for first flight.

**wout** · October 11th, 2015, 10:54

N7755C Ott V-2 Special. For what it is worth, the FAA register says the registration was cancelled 30 July 2013 and as A/W date 29 September 1967.
Another twin from Napa, Ca.
Have no further details and not even an N-number. It is just described as the David ...... Twin.

***Moses03*** · October 12th, 2015, 03:50

Thanks for the additional info on the Napa twins.

Are we going open board here or do you have another for us? (Assuming the David twin was just to show us and not to be investigated further?)

**wout** · October 12th, 2015, 04:21

The second twin from Napa, Ca is the Ely Twin, built by David Ely who started the project at age 19.
All I know is that it had a retractable gear, engines were two Continental C85s and that the aircraft was lost in 1964, the year after it first flew.

I second Kevin`s suggestion for OH, but hope that anyone may have more info on the Ely Twin.

**wout** · October 13th, 2015, 00:04

To keep things going, another twin

**Baragouin** · October 13th, 2015, 03:23

Originally Posted by wout

To keep things going, another twin

Hello boys and girls!

This is a mexican guy: it should be a Lascurain made item....Later for more details!
Cheers
BG

Precisely she is a Lascurain-Salinas XB1of 1940....

**wout** · October 13th, 2015, 08:36

Hi Baragouin

The 1940 XB-1 it is. Substitute the regular beer for a local delicatesse??

***Moses03*** · October 13th, 2015, 10:22

Super rare photos here of the Lascurain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDNF3VTvYMA

**Baragouin** · October 13th, 2015, 10:45

Thanks Wout for the mexican mixture!

May I submit following mystery with scribble?
Cheers
BG
I didn't mean to submit such a large format....

**wout** · October 13th, 2015, 12:25

Ho Moses03

Thank you very much for the superb photo-video on the Lascurain XB-1. A real delight to watch with so many clear pictures, as you mentioned.
It remains funny that the testpilot does his job in his best Sunday suit.
Can I subscibe to tour video collection?

**lefty** · October 13th, 2015, 14:01

Brilliant, Kevin, on the Mexican oddball !

Not 100% sure on BG's floater, but will settle on the Martin T3M-2.

***Moses03*** · October 13th, 2015, 15:56

Couple of captures from the youtube video of the XB-1.

**Baragouin** · October 14th, 2015, 05:39

Originally Posted by lefty

Brilliant, Kevin, on the Mexican oddball !

Not 100% sure on BG's floater, but will settle on the Martin T3M-2.

Sorry Lefty she's from the US however not a Martin but from an equally super-important manufacturer.....(Aerofiles claims this would be the only torpedo plane ever built from this manufacturer)....
BG

**Baragouin** · October 14th, 2015, 05:55

Originally Posted by Moses03

Super rare photos here of the Lascurain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDNF3VTvYMA

What a phantastic video Moses I enjoyed every minute of it!
BG

**lefty** · October 14th, 2015, 07:31

Originally Posted by Baragouin

Sorry Lefty she's from the US however not a Martin but from an equally super-important manufacturer...

Gotcha ! Sloppy research on my part - Boeing XTB-1.

**Baragouin** · October 14th, 2015, 07:36

Originally Posted by lefty

Gotcha ! Sloppy research on my part - Boeing XTB-1.

Yessir Boeing TB1 (Model 63) apparently the only torpedo floater ever built by Boeing

Your turn for the next brilliant move!
Cheers
BG

**lefty** · October 14th, 2015, 11:45

Thanks BG - here's a grainy trimotor...

**Baragouin** · October 14th, 2015, 12:09

Originally Posted by lefty

Thanks BG - here's a grainy trimotor...

She's a Couzinet for sure....but a 21 or a 30? Well I opt for a Couzinet 30!
Cheers
BG

**lefty** · October 14th, 2015, 21:35

Sorry, not a Couzinet 30 (or a 21 either !)

**pomme homme** · October 15th, 2015, 01:24

I've been thinking Wibault-Penhoët, but I can't reconcile the wingtips or the cockpit glazing with any of the trimotor models of which I'm aware.

**lefty** · October 15th, 2015, 02:34

Sorry, I'm being very picky here, and BG deserves the glass -

- it is actually the Couzinet 20. Sorry if I misled you, PH.

**pomme homme** · October 15th, 2015, 02:51

Originally Posted by lefty

Sorry if I misled you, PH.

Not a problem. I'm quite capable of doing it myself without any assistance!

**Baragouin** · October 15th, 2015, 07:09

Originally Posted by lefty

Sorry, I'm being very picky here, and BG deserves the glass -

- it is actually the Couzinet 20. Sorry if I misled you, PH.

Thanks Lefty (though I don't seem to find a visible difference between the Couzinet 20 and the 21).
Here's my next mystery (of which I too ignored the existence up to a few days ago):

Cheers
BG

**Baragouin** · October 16th, 2015, 08:25

This seems to be a rather hard nut to crack: therefore let me show you a better pic of the same Aircraft
Cheers
BG

**cthornburg** · October 16th, 2015, 13:38

Piaggio P.2

Chris

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