To those who know the notapc3.
Over the years I gathered some info on this one, but still donot know what engine was installed. All info is very welcome!
To those who know the notapc3.
Over the years I gathered some info on this one, but still donot know what engine was installed. All info is very welcome!
Haven't a clue what you're talking about !Originally Posted by wout
The aircraft is not a PC-3.
I know what it is, the name of the builders, date of first flight, some performance figures etc. but never saw info on what engine was used, except that the aircraft was considered underpowered.
Since there is a lot of knowledge on the forum, I hope that those who know this aircraft, also know what engine was fitted.
Well so far you have stumped us on this one, Wout.
Have not had a great deal of time to search, but your hint about 'far, far away' means that this is probably from a land as yet undiscovered by Jane's or any other reference books !
Will continue..... Anyone else ?
The marking on the tail makes me think it's from Japan, and it seems to have WP rockets under the wings, so it's probably a FAC aircraft. The nose looks like it came from any generic Cessna/Beech/Piper though..
This one if not from Japan and I have no idea whether it was ever in JAWA.
hint 1: Timeframe 1980s
hint 2: shortly afterwards the country produced a 4-seater with very similar wings and tailfeathers and that one is in a museum.
I donot think there is Cessna/Beech/Piper influence, but it seems a design from France may have helped. (I donot speak the language of the country of origin, but in the text it says something about the Socata Rallye.)
And the nicest thing of all? I got info from the country of origin from an aircraft enthousiast who is a 14 year old boy. So there is hope that us nuts have successors, albeit in countries far, far away
Maybe the Socata connection links to this aircraft: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../8/0593895.jpg
BTW It's a Pilatus P-3, not a PC-3.
How about the Moroccan effort - Amin Gepal ?
Timeframe and desciption seems to fit Lefty, but Flightglobal doesn't mention a flying example of the piston engined version, just a mock-up:
AMIN
Gepal Unveiled in 1983, the Gepal is a
propeller-driven tandem-seat primary/basic
trainer. A full-scale mockup of the pistonpowered
Gepal Mk III with 300kW engine was
displayed at.the 1983 Paris Air Show, where
development of a turboprop-powered Gepal Mk
IV, with 410 kW Pratt & Whitney PT6A, was
announced.
A prototype Gepal Mk IV was scheduled to
fly early in 1984, with deliveries to begin in 1985
against a Moroccan order for 20 aircraft.
Customer: Morocco 20
Just found out that part the Socata Rally connection may have been the engine which my source in .......... says is the same as in the Rallye 220 so engine could be a 220hp Franklin 6A-350.
As for the country of origin, go east, but not as far as Japan or Korea and stay North of Indonesia and it is not Thailand.
The same aircraft
OK you dragged us there screaming, Walter. This must be the Vietnamese HL-1 - found you post in another forum about it.
I suspect information about this will be sparse indeed !
Lefty, bingo!The V.I.S.T. HL-1
Sorry I made life somewhat difficult, but we are dealing with mystery planes, aren`t we?.
First indigenous plane design in Vietnam. Developed by officers/engineers of the Vietnam (Air Force) Institute of Science and Technology (V.I.S.T.) and team leaders, I understand, were Maj-Gen.Truong Kanh Chau and Col. Nguyen Van Hai. The HL-1 was completed in August 1980 and I understand it first flew 25 September of that year.
The TL-1 "Tu Luc" was a four seat development which flew 1984 and this aircraft is now in the Hanoi Aviation Museum (Google pictures for HL-1 and TL-1)
The chicken and the egg!
Going over the translated text again, it seems that the 4-seater (TL-1) was first to fly (25 Sept.1980) and that the armed tandem-seat HL-1 FAC/trainer (it had provision for 8 u.w rockets) flew in 1984.
Wout, your researches are profound indeed.
Sorry, chaps, been busy on the curling rink today - no mysteries to hand at the moment - free house. Wout gave that one away anyway !
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Avsim - Flightsim - SimFlight - Simviation - iflyonline - CFS IP - Quarter Moon Saloon - Com-Central
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks