Thanks Manuele & Italian Wings...

[huub vink]

For this beautiful aircraft! It is one of the 'civilian aircrafts' I fly most often....

Oh BTW Manuele, I found out the story about the three mice. They were meant to scare the women who approached the aircraft and crew too close...... Definitely a weird story :d

Huub

[Daube]

Oh yes ! Despite being a FS9 plane, it's one of the most beautifull birds in my FSX hangar, and for sure one of the greatest virtual cockpits I've ever seen !

[italflyer]

This bird is sitting on the runway at Genova Sestri and waiting for me, every time I fire up FS9!

[leonross]

Does anyone happen to know where I can get it ?

[Odie]

For this beautiful aircraft! It is one of the 'civilian aircrafts' I fly most often....

Oh BTW Manuele, I found out the story about the three mice. They were meant to scare the women who approached the aircraft and crew too close...... Definitely a weird story :d

Huub

Very nice, Huub !

[fleurdelys]

Try this address Leon...
http://www.flightsim.com/kdl.php?fid=120234

Cheers,

Fleurdelys

[Kofschip]

Thanks Huub for bringing this to our attention, I am downloading it right now.

[leonross]

Thanks much also Fleurdelys for the link . I checked there but must have been half asleep and didn't see it .

[lemonadedrinker]

Hi All,
I like that airplane from Manuele Villa and there is also a payware one from LAGO, which is without the Hump and i think is even nicer to look at.Here is a shot of each.



and here is the LAGO version! I don't seem to be able to write below this pic !

Andy.

[Roger]

It's here:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.ph...o&FileID=11075

[huub vink]

Andy,

The I-12 (I-ROTR) was a converted production bomber used by the Italian team during the "Istres/Damascus/Paris" race (Lindberg Cup, 20/21 August 1937). Therefore this particular aircraft 'most probably' had the 'hunch' (I haven't been able to find any pictures from the real aircraft).

I do agree the version without the hunch look very nice as well, but somehow I think the Spaviero isn't a real Spaviero without the 'hunch'.

Cheers,
Huub

[huub vink]

After a long search I have found a picture of the real I-ROTR. As you can see it is an 'hunch back'.

Cheers,
Huub

[Ferry_vO]

Wasn't Manuele working on an expansion pack for the Sparviero that would include a 'humpless' race version..?

[huub vink]

When Manuele was working on the expansion pack for the SM.79, he mentioned he wanted do a civil model without the 'hunch back' as well. As he has been busy with many other models I guess a SM.79 SC isn't on his priority list yet.

In the past I was tempted to purchase the 'Crossings' set from Lago. Not just for the Corsa Spavieros, but for the beautiful FIAT CR.32 as well. When Manuele finished the conversion of the Italian Wings SM.79, it was so good, I decided not to purchase the set anymore. However when they lower the price like Captian Sim does with older models, I still might purchase the set.

Cheers,

Huub

[lemonadedrinker]

Hi,

Interesting about the varieties with or without humps! I tried looking for a bit more info but quickly got my brain in a tangle and just decided to be satisfied with them as they are. Manuele has produced the FIAT G18 and is in the process of giving us the wonderful looking G12 in various guises, so there's lots to look forward to

Andy.

[Txmmy83]

I have one small problem with that Plane which is near Perfect

but according to the Manual of Lagos old "the Crossings" Payware (I use it as reference for the Corsa Variant)
the Corsa in Lagos old Payware has 7000Liter Fuel tanks the Freeware by Manuele & Italian Wings has around 2200Liter
which makes the historic flight Istres-Damscus-Paris near Impossible

how can I finetune the cfg to behave more like a CORSA version of the SM-79?

Lagos Tanks Configuration
1 Center 305 Gal/1156 Liter
2 Right 305 Gal/1156 Liter
3 Left 305 Gal/1156 Liter
4 Right tip 108 Gal/409Liter
5 Left tip 108 Gal/409Liter
6 Auxiliary right 108 Gal/409Liter
7 Auxiliary left 108 Gal/409Liter
8 Auxiliary Center 184 Gal/696 Liter

so I may have to modify this section in Freeware:

[fuel]

//Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

fuel_type = 1
number_of_tank_selectors = 2

Center1 = 0, 0, 0, 178, 0
LeftMain = 0, 0, 0, 325, 0
RightMain = 0, 0, 0, 325, 0

to make it short what I just want to say it would be nice to have an alternate aircraft.cfg reflecting the SM-79CS performance

[lemonadedrinker]

Hi,

the cfg I have shows 7000 litre capacity for the 79C and I added it for you to look at here.

It might be helpful to you


[fltsim.0]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa" I-CUPA
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
visual_damage=1
description=Cupini & Paradisi S.79 "Corsa", Istres-Damasco-Paris Winner in 1937.\n\nCopyright (c) 2003 LAGO S.r.l. and Ansirial.\nAll Rights Reserved.
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Corsa"
ui_variation=I-CUPA
atc_heavy=0
atc_id=I-CUPA
atc_airline=Aeronautica Militare
atc_flight_number=I11

[fltsim.1]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa" I-BISE
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=1
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
visual_damage=1
description=Biseo & Paradisi S.79 "Transatlantico", South Atlantic crossing from Rome to Rio de Janeiro, 24-25th January 1938 (ex I-BIMU).\n\nCopyright (c) 2003 LAGO S.r.l. and Ansirial.\nAll Rights Reserved.
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Transatlantico"
ui_variation=I-BISE
atc_heavy=0
atc_id=I-BISE
atc_airline=Aeronautica Militare
atc_flight_number=BISE

[fltsim.2]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa" I-BIMU
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=2
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
visual_damage=1
description=Biseo & Mussolini S.79 "Corsa", placed 3rd in Istres-Damasco-Paris race in 1937.\n\nCopyright (c) 2003 LAGO S.r.l. and Ansirial.\nAll Rights Reserved.
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Corsa"
ui_variation=I-BIMU
atc_heavy=0
atc_id=I-BIMU
atc_airline=Aeronautica Militare
atc_flight_number=I5

[fltsim.3]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa" I-TOMO
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=3
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
visual_damage=1
description=Tondi & Moscatelli S.79 "Corsa", placed 6th in Istres-Damasco-Paris race in 1937.\n\nCopyright (c) 2003 LAGO S.r.l. and Ansirial.\nAll Rights Reserved.
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Corsa"
ui_variation=I-TOMO
atc_heavy=0
atc_id=I-TOMO
atc_airline=Aeronautica Militare
atc_flight_number=I6

[fltsim.4]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa" I-LICA
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=4
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
visual_damage=1
description=Lippi & Castellani S.79 "Corsa", retired after a take-off accident at Damascus during the Istres-Damasco-Paris race in 1937.\n\nCopyright (c) 2003 LAGO S.r.l. and Ansirial.\nAll Rights Reserved.
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Corsa"
ui_variation=I-LICA
atc_heavy=0
atc_id=I-LICA
atc_airline=Aeronautica Militare
atc_flight_number=I7

[fltsim.5]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa" I-ROTR
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=5
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
visual_damage=1
description=Rovis & Trimboli S.79 "Corsa", placed 8th in Istres-Damasco-Paris race in 1937.\n\nCopyright (c) 2003 LAGO S.r.l. and Ansirial.\nAll Rights Reserved.
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Corsa"
ui_variation=I-ROTR
atc_heavy=0
atc_id=I-ROTR
atc_airline=Aeronautica Militare
atc_flight_number=I12

[fltsim.6]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa" I-FILU
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=6
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
visual_damage=1
description=Fiori & Lucchini S.79 "Corsa", placed 2nd in Istres-Damasco-Paris race in 1937.\n\nCopyright (c) 2003 LAGO S.r.l. and Ansirial.\nAll Rights Reserved.
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Corsa"
ui_variation=I-FILU
atc_heavy=0
atc_id=I-FILU
atc_airline=Aeronautica Militare
atc_flight_number=I13

[fltsim.7]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa" I-BRUN
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=7
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
visual_damage=1
description=Mussolini & Mancinelli S.79 "Transatlantico", South Atlantic crossing from Rome to Rio de Janeiro, 24-25th January 1938 (ex I-FILU).\n\nCopyright (c) 2003 LAGO S.r.l. and Ansirial.\nAll Rights Reserved.
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Transatlantico"
ui_variation=I-BRUN
atc_heavy=0
atc_id=I-BRUN
atc_airline=Aeronautica Militare
atc_flight_number=BRUN

[fltsim.8]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa" I-MONI
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=8
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
visual_damage=1
description=Moscatelli & Gori Castellani S.79 "Transatlantico", South Atlantic crossing from Rome to Rio de Janeiro, 24-25th January 1938 (ex I-CUPA).\n\nCopyright (c) 2003 LAGO S.r.l. and Ansirial.\nAll Rights Reserved.
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Transatlantico"
ui_variation=I-MONI
atc_heavy=0
atc_id=I-MONI
atc_airline=Aeronautica Militare
atc_flight_number=MONI

[fltsim.9]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa"LATI
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=t
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
prop_anim_ratio=1.02
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
atc_id=I-ATOS
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Transatlantico"
ui_variation="SM79T_LATI"
description=SIAI 'Savoia Marchetti' S.79 Sparviero (Sparrow Hawk) torpedo bomber, known as 'il Gobbo' (the Hunchback) for its quite prominent dorsal hump which housed a forward fairing machine gun and an aft -firing flexible mounted weapon. Painted in the colours of LATI + depicting an aircraft on the Atlantic service to Brazil during 1939-41.

[fltsim.10]
title=Ansirial - SIAI S.79 "Corsa"RACER
sim=sm79-d
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=cs
kb_checklists=Sm79-d_check
prop_anim_ratio=1.02
kb_reference=Sm79-d_ref
atc_id=I-CUPI
ui_manufacturer=SIAI
ui_type=S.79 "Transatlantico"
ui_variation="SM79CS_RACER"
description='Savoia Marchetti' S.79 Sparviero (Sparrow Hawk). 2 models of the most famous italian aircraft of WWII.This S.M. is depicted as one of the racer aircraft of the late 1930s.

[contact_points]
point.0=1, -35.656, 0.0, -1.817, 1200.0, 0, 0.60, 10.0, 0.200, 2.5, 0.695, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0
point.1=1, 0.700, -9.5, -8.9, 1600.0, 1, 1.35, 0.0, 0.704, 2.5, 0.686, 20.0, 50.0, 7.0, 166.0, 166.0
point.2=1, 0.700, 9.5, -8.9, 1600.0, 2, 1.35, 0.0, 0.704, 2.5, 0.682, 20.0, 50.0, 7.0, 166.0, 166.0
point.3= 2.000, 0.426, -8.543, -4.583, 3000.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.4= 2.000, 0.426, 8.543, -4.583, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.5= 2.000, -34.671, 0.000, -0.688, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.6= 2.000, 9.917, 0.000, -2.421, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
static_pitch= 11.200
static_cg_height= 7.5
point.7= 2.000, -2.332, 34.219, -0.216, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.8= 2.000, -2.332, -34.219, -0.216, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000
gear_system_type=1 //Hydraulic
tailwheel_lock = 1

[Views]
eyepoint=0.33,-1,3.16

[General]
atc_type=SIAIMARCHETTI
atc_model=S.79C
editable=1
performance=Maximum Speed\n230 Kts 426 km/hr\n\nEngines\nAlfa Romeo 126 RC 34 2040 hp\n\nPropeller\nThree-bladed Ratier constant-speed, variable pitch\n\nMaximum Range\n2,814 nm 5.150 km\n\nService Ceiling\n21,325 ft 6,500 km\n\nFuel Capacity\n1,849 gal 7.000 L\n\nMaximum Gross Weight\n26,780 lb 12.147 kg \n\nLength\n51.18 ft 15,6 m\n\nWingspan\n69.55 ft 21,2 m\n\nHeight\n15.08 ft 4,6 m\n\nSeating 4\n\nUseful Load\n11,789 lb 5.347 kg

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
reference_datum_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
empty_weight_CG_position= 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
max_number_of_stations=50
station_load.0 = "170.0, 0.682, -0.98, 1.765, Pilot" //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position
station_load.1 = "170.0, 0.682, 0.98, 1.765, Co-Pilot" //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position
station_load.2 = "170.0, -3.398, -0.98, 1.765, Flight Engineer" //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position
station_load.3 = "170.0, -3.398, 0.98, 1.765, Radio Operator" //Weight, Lat, Lon, Vert Position
empty_weight= 14991.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI= 72194.000
empty_weight_pitch_MOI= 265024.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI= 247000 //133101.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI= 0.000
max_gross_weight= 26780.000
CG_forward_limit= 0.000
CG_aft_limit= 1.000

[fuel]
LeftMain= 0.000, -4.488, -1.181, 411.000, 0.000
LeftAux= -10.620, -8.503, -3.543, 108.000, 0.000
RightMain= 0.000, 4.488, -1.181, 411.000, 0.000
RightAux= -10.620, 8.503, -3.543, 108.000, 0.000
fuel_type=1.000000
number_of_tank_selectors=1
Center1= 0.000, 0.000, -1.181, 411.000, 0.000
Center2= -8.267, 0.000, 0.000, 184.000, 0.000
LeftTip= -2.362, -12.990, -1.181, 108.000, 0.000
RightTip= -2.362, 12.990, -1.181, 108.000, 0.000
electric_pump=0

[airplane_geometry]
wing_area= 692.000
wing_span= 69.583
wing_root_chord= 9.917
wing_dihedral= 2.999
wing_incidence= 0.000
wing_twist= -1.000
oswald_efficiency_factor= 1.000
wing_winglets_flag= 0
wing_sweep= 2.999
wing_pos_apex_lon= 1.916
wing_pos_apex_vert= -1.627
htail_area= 90.144
htail_span= 25.833
htail_pos_lon= -28.7
htail_pos_vert= 3.064
htail_incidence= 0.000
htail_sweep= 30.000
vtail_area= 36.257
vtail_span= 11.229
vtail_sweep= 30.000
vtail_pos_lon= -28.7
vtail_pos_vert= 4.074
elevator_area= 24.76 //31.23
aileron_area= 49.084
rudder_area= 15.34
elevator_up_limit= 10.000 //27.502
elevator_down_limit= 10.626
aileron_up_limit= 13.000
aileron_down_limit= 26.000
rudder_limit= 23.491
elevator_trim_limit= 6.000 //10.000
spoiler_limit= 0.0
spoilerons_available= 0
aileron_to_spoileron_gain= 0.000
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons= 0.000
min_flaps_for_spoilerons= 0.000

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type= 0
Engine.0= 5.905, -8.503, -1.667
Engine.1= 11.102, 0.000, 0.000
Engine.2= 5.905, 8.503, -1.667
fuel_flow_scalar= 1.000
min_throttle_limit=0.000000
master_ignition_switch = 1
max_contrail_temperature=-27

[piston_engine]
max_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar=1.000
idle_rpm_mechanical_efficiency_scalar=1.000
max_rpm_friction_scalar=1.000
idle_rpm_friction_scalar=1.000
cylinder_displacement= 194.000
compression_ratio= 6.500
number_of_cylinders= 9
max_rated_rpm= 2500.000
max_rated_hp= 780.000
fuel_metering_type= 1
cooling_type= 0
normalized_starter_torque= 0.300
turbocharged= 1
max_design_mp= 37.000
min_design_mp= 1.574
critical_altitude= 11154
emergency_boost_type= 0
emergency_boost_mp_offset= 0.000
emergency_boost_gain_offset= 0.000
fuel_air_auto_mixture= 0
auto_ignition= 0
power_scalar=1.000

[propeller]
propeller_type= 0
propeller_diameter= 10.000
propeller_blades= 3
propeller_moi= 26.250
beta_max= 24.000
beta_min= 18.000
min_gov_rpm= 1400.000
prop_tc= 0.100
gear_reduction_ratio= 0.655
fixed_pitch_beta= 0.000
low_speed_theory_limit= 80.000
prop_sync_available= 1
prop_deice_available= 0
prop_feathering_available= 0
prop_auto_feathering_available= 0
min_rpm_for_feather= 0.000
beta_feather= 0.000
power_absorbed_cf= 0.000
defeathering_accumulators_available= 0
prop_reverse_available= 0
minimum_on_ground_beta= 0.000
minimum_reverse_beta= 0.000
thrust_scalar=0.700

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed= 70.000
full_flaps_stall_speed= 56.000
cruise_speed= 103.570
max_indicated_speed=245.703125

[keyboard_response]
//Breakpoint speeds (knots) on the keyboard increments of control surfaces.
//Speed at which the incremenet is reduced to 1/2 and 1/8 respectively.
elevator =200, 450.000
aileron =200, 1000
rudder =200, 1000

[autopilot]
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=0
default_vertical_speed=500.000000
autothrottle_available=0
autothrottle_arming_required=0
autothrottle_takeoff_ga=0
autothrottle_max_rpm=90.000000
pitch_takeoff_ga=8.000000
max_pitch=10.000000
max_pitch_acceleration=1.000000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.500000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.000000
max_bank=25.000000
max_bank_acceleration=1.800000
max_bank_velocity=3.000000
max_throttle_rate=0.100000
nav_proportional_control=9.000000
nav_integrator_control=0.250000
nav_derivative_control=0.000000
nav_integrator_boundary=2.500000
nav_derivative_boundary=0.000000
gs_proportional_control=9.520000
gs_integrator_control=0.260000
gs_derivative_control=0.000000
gs_integrator_boundary=0.700000
gs_derivative_boundary=0.000000
yaw_damper_gain=0.000000

[direction_indicators]
direction_indicator.0 = 1,0
direction_indicator.1 = 2,0
direction_indicator.2 = 2,0

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar=1.000
pitch_stability=1.000
roll_stability=1.000
yaw_stability=1.000
parasite_drag_scalar=0.9000 //1,.0000
induced_drag_scalar=1.000
elevator_effectiveness=0.1500 //1.000
aileron_effectiveness=0.6750 //1.000
rudder_effectiveness=0.6750 //1.000
elevator_trim_effectiveness=0.1000 //0.2500 //1.000
aileron_trim_effectiveness=0.3400 //0.6570 //1.000
rudder_trim_effectiveness=0.6570 //1.000

[electrical]
max_battery_voltage = 24
max_battery_amps = 44
generator_alternator_voltage = 24
max_generator_alternator_amps = 33
engine_generator_map= 1,0,1

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit
light.0 = 3, 0, -32.88,-0.17, fx_navred
light.1 = 3, 0, 32.88,-0.17, fx_navgre
light.2 = 3, -38.41, 0.00, 0.75, fx_navwhi
light.3 = 4, 1.692, 0, 3.322, ansirial_fx_luceblu
light.4 = 4, -6.00, 0.00, 1.80, fx_vclight

[Radios]
// Radio Type=availiable, standby frequency, has glide slope
Audio.1=1
Com.1=1, 0
Com.2=1, 0
Nav.1=1, 0, 1
Nav.2=1, 0, 0
Adf.1=1
Transponder.1=1
Marker.1=1

[EFFECTS]
wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks
touchdown=fx_tchdwn_s, 1
startup=fx_engstrt_ryan
contrail=fx_A_I_Contrail

[Flaps.0]
type= 2
span-outboard= 0.600
extending-time= 5.000
system_type= 3
damaging-speed= 0.000
blowout-speed= 0.000
lift_scalar= 0.500
drag_scalar= 0.500
pitch_scalar= 0.500
flaps-position.0= 0.000, 0.000
flaps-position.1= 0.500, 0.000
flaps-position.2= 1.250, 0.000
flaps-position.3= 2.000, 0.000

[Flaps.1]
type= 1
span-outboard= 0.300
extending-time= 5.000
system_type= 3
damaging-speed= 140
blowout-speed= 175
lift_scalar= 1.000
drag_scalar= 1.000
pitch_scalar= 1.000
flaps-position.0= 0.000, 0.000
flaps-position.1= 9.998, 0.000
flaps-position.2= 19.996, 0.000
flaps-position.3= 29.994, 0.000

[brakes]
parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake available
toe_brakes_scale = 0.33//1.0 //Brake scalar
differential_braking_scale = 1.0 //Delta on the amount of brake when the rudder pedals deflected

[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available = 1 //Normal
pct_throttle_limit = 0.1 //Percent throttle that activates warning
flap_limit_idle = 0.0 //Flap angle that activates warning at idle
flap_limit_power = 16.0 //Flap angle that activates warning at above idle

[exits]
number_of_exits = 1
exit_rate.0 = 0.4 ;Percent per second

[hydraulic_system]
normal_pressure = 732.0 //PSI
electric_pumps = 0 //no electric pumps
engine_map = 1,0,1,0 //pumps on Eng1,3

[forcefeedback]
ground_bumps_magnitude1=2600 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle1=8900 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept1=5.0
ground_bumps_slope1=0.6
ground_bumps_magnitude2=1200 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle2=9100 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept2=0.085
ground_bumps_slope2=0.65
crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction1=01000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction2=9000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_period2=75000 ; in microseconds
crash_duration2=3500000 ; in microseconds

[stall_warning]
type=0

[attitude_indicators]
attitude_indicator.0=1

[turn_indicators]
turn_indicator.0=1,0

[Txmmy83]

thanks

I have changed the cfg of the Manuele & Italian Wings version
but I run into trouble that it wont lift off the ground

PS:
Manuele if you read this please consider providing an alternate FDE that reflects S.M.79CS Performance!

[lemonadedrinker]

Hi,




this is the LAGO airplane, but what I cannot find are any civilian repaints and I'm too slack witted to think of trying to do my own!

Andy.

[Txmmy83]

at the moment I fly the Lago S.M.79CS on Istres-Damascus-Paris

Etappe 2 Damascus-Le Bourget

glad that I purchased this long time ago (a true Classic!)

[srgalahad]

For a detailed report on the 1937 race from the Putnam Aeronautical Review, look here: http://books.google.ca/books?id=9GDH...20race&f=false

Included are great descriptions of the aircraft and some details of the modifications. Note that the SM-79s were modified with extra fuel tanks, the standard wing tanks were enlarged and the aircraft was allowed to take off at a Gross Weight of some 14,000 Kg (overloaded).

Trying to mate the two may take more than matching the apparent numbers (as quoted):

Lagos Tanks Configuration
1 Center 305 Gal/1156 Liter
2 Right 305 Gal/1156 Liter
3 Left 305 Gal/1156 Liter
4 Right tip 108 Gal/409Liter
5 Left tip 108 Gal/409Liter
6 Auxiliary right 108 Gal/409Liter
7 Auxiliary left 108 Gal/409Liter
8 Auxiliary Center 184 Gal/696 Liter
Total 1531 Gal / 5800L.

but the cfg. file lemonadedrinker posted shows:
411 + 108 + 411 + 108 + 411 + 184 + 108 + 108 = 1849 USG or 6999.2 L

Now, 1531 Imp. Gal does come very close at 1839 US Gal so I'm first of all curious if Lago got the numbers stated in the manual muddled (Imp. vs US Gal). Interesting too that the Lago Manual lists the smaller tanks at 108 Gal as does the cfg. but there is a significant difference in the 3 larger tanks 411/305 but even that doesn't match as 305 Imp Gal = 366 USG (not 411). Was someone 'just trying to make things work'?

There is a significant difference in the weights in the two .cfg files as well:

MVG SM79
max_gross_weight = 23644
empty_weight = 15479
disp. load = 8165

Lago SM79
max_gross_weight= 26780.000
empty_weight= 14991.000
disp. load = 11789

Simply adding the Lago fuel numbers to the MVG .cfg will certainly lead to issues and probably wreak havoc with the wt/balance as well. Being overweight or out of CofG limits will certainly affect the flight characteristics. Someone with more knowledge of air files can go into the other parameters that might differ between the two .air files

[Txmmy83]

you are right I looked into Printed manual of Lagos SM79 again

and it show other values than they have in Aircraft.cfg