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    This is the time to count them....

    Already quite a while ago I received a request. Today I finally started this repaint. Actually as a test for another repaint.

    Any ideas? I didn't know the wings had this many rivets


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    Perhaps the colour give a clue...


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    Oh go on then......

    A Curtiss P-36/Hawk 75/Mohawk or a P43 Lancer.......

    Cheers

    Shessi

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    Shessi,

    Not a bad guess, but as you know I have a preference for the aircraft of the bad boys. This wasn't a bad aircraft, nevertheless only 252 were built.

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    Huub, as a rough guide rivet pitch is about 1.0 inches for WW2 aircraft I would say......happy counting & measuring!
    Keith

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    Reggiane Re.2005. Checking production, it would be the Re.2001

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dev One View Post
    Huub, as a rough guide rivet pitch is about 1.0 inches for WW2 aircraft I would say......happy counting & measuring!
    Keith
    Keith, I think this one was metric . And the model is so glossy that you can hardly see the rivets .

    And to keep rivets visible in a repaint they need to have a very unrealistic size...........

    Cheers,
    Huub

    edit: Nearly Hurricane91 it is its predecessor The Reggiani Re.2001 Falco II ( I see you already figgered that out). I'm trying to make some textures for Mr Ito's Re.2001, the model is reasonably easy to repaint and it is about as glossy as the Luca Festari's beautiful Re.2005 (Skyunlimited model).
    When I am able to produce something reasonable for this model I will start a repaint for Skyunlimited Re.2005.

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    This is how it currently looks:



    The flight dynamics are a disaster, so there is some work to do there as well....

    Cheers,
    Huub

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    Very nice wings Huub. I'm glad to see this airplane getting some attention. Mr Ito's model captures the lines of Roberto Longhi's thoroughbred very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huub vink View Post
    And to keep rivets visible in a repaint they need to have a very unrealistic size...........

    Cheers,
    Huub
    One reason why my Arrow Active has them in the model, not the texture. Luckily not that many of them!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by huub vink View Post
    ... And the model is so glossy that you can hardly see the rivets. And to keep rivets visible in a repaint they need to have a very unrealistic size...
    To see rivets on a real airplane you have to look awfully close! Same for panel lines. So if you can hardly see them, that's probably just about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick View Post
    To see rivets on a real airplane you have to look awfully close! Same for panel lines. So if you can hardly see them, that's probably just about right.
    I'm gonna have to keep that in mind.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick View Post
    To see rivets on a real airplane you have to look awfully close! Same for panel lines. So if you can hardly see them, that's probably just about right.
    Its a general rule, but how well lines and rivets are visible is very much depending on light and the way the aircraft is constructed and finished.

    Yesterday I went to the National Military Museum and looked at riveting and panel lines. I realised there isn't a real general rule. Polished aircraft show far more detail as panels and the surfaces of rivets all reflect in a different direction. On painted aircraft the thickness of paint is very important, it seems that aircraft had a less thick paint layer in the past. Modern aircraft hide all their details behind a thick coating.

    In general I think we repainters put far to much details in our repaints. But actually I like them that way .

    Cheers,
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    Cheers,
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    A small update:




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    Still figgering out where everything is hidden, but so far I like the colours.... Progress is (very) slow. I'm still working on the first texture....


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    Quote Originally Posted by huub vink View Post
    Still figgering out where everything is hidden, but so far I like the colours.... Progress is (very) slow. I'm still working on the first texture....


    Verrrrrry subtle Huub - love it.

    Edit: BTW - just curious: did you manage to have room to room to flick out of the inverted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel richards View Post
    Verrrrrry subtle Huub - love it.

    Edit: BTW - just curious: did you manage to have room to room to flick out of the inverted?
    Thanks Nigel, your question is however a bit too British for a non-native English speaker .

    But I think you are referring to my skills as virtual pilot. I can assure you that I'm a better repainter than virtual pilot. This manouvre therefore most likely ended with pressing the "Escape" button on my keyboard.

    A puzzled Huub....

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    I think Nigel added an extra 'room to' by mistake Huub. It reads much better as ' just curious: did you manage to have room to flick out of the inverted? ' .. noting that you were close to the sea in that shot

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    Huub; sorry for confusing you, my friend - but you responded perfectly. Yep, Esc is a great escape route. :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
    I think Nigel added an extra 'room to' by mistake Huub. It reads much better as ' just curious: did you manage to have room to flick out of the inverted? ' .. noting that you were close to the sea in that shot

    ATB
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    Thanks DaveB - I'm always repeating myself these days...
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    There is still some progress

    It isn't much but a small update. I think the colours look quite natural and all lines are more or less there. Now I can start the shading process. Due to the texture lay-out this could become an interesting one.....




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    Quote Originally Posted by huub vink View Post
    It isn't much but a small update. I think the colours look quite natural and all lines are more or less there. Now I can start the shading process. Due to the texture lay-out this could become an interesting one.....
    That's an sensational paint, Huub. Beautiful.

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    I agree with Hurricane91
    Most men often say what they think!
    An honest man usually means what he says!
    A gentleman always says what he means!

    "Αίεν Υψικρατείν "

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    Hi Huub
    I saw this thread only today. Fantastic plane and fantastic paint.
    Do you have this book?


    If not please contact me.
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    alx

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    Hi Alessandro,

    Good to see you! Don't worry as I have more information at the moment than I can handle. I doe have the book you showed and several others.

    One of the problems is that the drawings with the panel lines and rivets differ between the different publications.

    So I had to choose on, however the lines do not match the model. The virtual hinges of rudders from the model don't match the location of the hinges of the real thing......

    So still some choices to make and some challenges to face

    Cheers,
    Huub

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