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  1. #26
    I occasionally use the DX10 preview mode. Which brings up another question. Does the term, "Preview DX10" mean that there will eventually be a permanent DX10 selection?

    NC

  2. #27
    Hi all,
    Okay updated my machine to run DX10.Got a:
    Intel QX9650 3ghz extreme processor
    Nvidea GTX280 graphics card with 1gb memory
    4 GB DDR3
    ASUS Stryker II extreme mobo.
    DX10 runs like crap.2-3 fps broken and torn graphics.Back on DX9 40-60 fps.Only round Tokyo does it drop to 15-20 fps for some reason.
    This was with a clean install with SP1 and 2.Plus the Acceleration pack.
    Have just now started the long process of reinstalling all my addons.Going through 50 dvds to get the best out.
    Anyway DX10 is out.

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  3. #28
    Hmm, run DX10 on the Win 7 beta and it's fine, apart from the effects only working in certain places etc. To be honest I don't think it actually makes a quantifiable difference on my machine whether I us DX9 or 10, the main difference is between XP and 7 where 7 is just faster, from load time to FPS in game. I initially thought it was because I was running a very vanilla install of 7 and FSX, but having loaded up the usual software and add-ons to OS and FS I have to say it's still much quicker than on XP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha13 View Post
    Hi all,
    Okay updated my machine to run DX10.Got a:
    Intel QX9650 3ghz extreme processor
    Nvidea GTX280 graphics card with 1gb memory
    4 GB DDR3
    ASUS Stryker II mobo.
    DX10 runs like crap.2-3 fps broken and torn graphics.Back on DX9 40-60 fps.Only round Tokyo does it drop to 15-20 fps for some reason.
    This was with a clean install with SP1 and 2.Plus the Acceleration pack.
    Have just now started the long process of reinstalling all my addons.Going through 50 dvds to get the best out.
    Anyway DX10 is out.

    Buddha13
    It should only look crap on older drivers. on 180+ dx10 should look better except for the flashy runway markers. I've reverted to 169.44 drivers in dx9 which seems to be the turning point between vsync being improved and the little micro jumps that shipped with the 170+ drivers. So I get the the odd bit of tearing but the micro jumps don't happen.
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    Processor:I5 4670k overclocked to 4.4 gHz with Corsair CW-9060008-WW hydro cooler
    Motherboard:Z87
    RAM:16 gig 1866 gigaHz Corsair ram
    Video Card:MSI 1070 8 gig ram
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  5. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by navychief View Post
    I occasionally use the DX10 preview mode. Which brings up another question. Does the term, "Preview DX10" mean that there will eventually be a permanent DX10 selection?

    NC
    Well, there would have been one in FSvNext, but since ACES studio was disbanded, the answer is a simple "No, there will not."
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    My experience of DX10 is 1000 times better than with DX9. I get a glimmer on the taxiway but it really doesn't detract. The actual flight experience is so beautifully smooth with all sliders at max - I must be very lucky!

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    The effect was so mild and at such a high cost that I never use it...

    I am now back to WinXP which doesnt support DX10 and I am happy.

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  8. #33
    As a comparison, on the same machine in a saved flight at Paris CdG in XP I get 5fps, in Win 7 beta I get 15 fps. Both in DX9, both have the same add-ons installed. DX10 gives me 13 fps in the same situation.
    As soon as I can get Win 7 final release I'm so ditching XP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkippyBing View Post
    As a comparison, on the same machine in a saved flight at Paris CdG in XP I get 5fps, in Win 7 beta I get 15 fps. Both in DX9, both have the same add-ons installed. DX10 gives me 13 fps in the same situation.
    As soon as I can get Win 7 final release I'm so ditching XP!
    Sounds awesome man... Nothing like a good running, smooth, stable OS.

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  10. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Lionheart View Post
    Sounds awesome man... Nothing like a good running, smooth, stable OS.

    :d
    Sounds like my Vista Ultimate 64 install

    (Ubuntu 8.10 is also running really well on my eee)

  11. #36
    Im big fan of DX10 from the last week when I the first time install Steve DX10 Fixer! The new fresh air in FSX (W7 64).

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  12. #37
    Where did the vignette come from since it's not edited?

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    Until today's posts this thread was 5 years old. It takes no account of the work done with Dx10 by Steve Parsons and his amazing fixer which amongst many other fixes also can add shadows to legacy external views.
    SYSTEM :
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    DX version Dx10 with Steve's Fixer.
    Processor:I5 4670k overclocked to 4.4 gHz with Corsair CW-9060008-WW hydro cooler
    Motherboard:Z87
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  14. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by orionll View Post
    Where did the vignette come from since it's not edited?
    SweetFX for sure. Example in Dx10:



    Last edited by YoYo; March 9th, 2014 at 15:25.
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  15. #40
    Ah, wow, it can do that? That's neat.

  16. #41
    I switched to DX10 recently. At least a 20% maybe 30% improvement in fps. Water textures, colors,appear more pronounced. cockpit shading only shows in the enabled aircraft that have it. Some texture problems with FTX and older dx9 converted aircraft. Have not purchased the "fixer" yet. Been tweaking with the Nvidia inspector.

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  17. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by dvj View Post
    Some texture problems with FTX and older dx9 converted aircraft. Have not purchased the "fixer" yet. Been tweaking with the Nvidia inspector.

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    If you do purchase the fixer, your remaining problems will go away.

  18. #43
    I went to Steves site at the link in the thread and could not find the "Fixer" that was mentioned. Mus be dense or sumpin!

    Joe Watson
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeW View Post
    I went to Steves site at the link in the thread and could not find the "Fixer" that was mentioned. Mus be dense or sumpin!

    Hi Joe,
    When Avsim is back up again the Official Dx10/Steve's Fixer forum is here: http://forum.avsim.net/forum/644-the...support-forum/

    The product can be purchased from The Flightsim Store.
    SYSTEM :
    OS:Win7 Home Premium 64 bit UAC OFF!
    DX version Dx10 with Steve's Fixer.
    Processor:I5 4670k overclocked to 4.4 gHz with Corsair CW-9060008-WW hydro cooler
    Motherboard:Z87
    RAM:16 gig 1866 gigaHz Corsair ram
    Video Card:MSI 1070 8 gig ram
    HD:2Tb Samsung 850 evo SSD

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  20. #45
    Never been a fan of DX10.

    Built a new FSX rig two years ago:
    CPU: Intel i7 2600k @4.6GHZ
    Memory: 16 GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz DDR3
    Mobo: Asus P8Z67-v Pro/Gen3
    GPU: EVGA GTX 770 SC 4GB
    PSU: Corsair AX 760W.
    Case: CoolerMaster HAF932 Advanced.

    Even with this rig I never once thought of even trying DX10, as with add-ons like REX OD, Shade and others I am already very satisfied with what I see.
    For me, I don't see any reason to spend $34 on something that I may only use once. A demo or trial version would have been an option.
    Oh, I just read that it doesn't work with multi monitor setup's, so it's a definite "no go" for me.

    I saw somewhere in this thread that someone was asking about ground textures, covering the whole world: Have a look at FTX Global and Vector.
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