Douglas A20 Havoc

[michaelvader]

Hello Milton,
Would it be possible to get a checklist and references list
your bird is so hot that I fired up my pc before going to work and made a test flight
Wow, the VC is really pretty!
I tried out to fly at 3000ft altitude with the engine settings 24 map and 2100 rpm the plane really slows down a lot
34 and 2400 seems more real
What do you think about
a full flight test will be done after holydays
Oh please tell me how the fuel management and most important the fuel gauges should work. Perhaps I can find some solution via the gauges.
I will see later to change over from the A26 gauges to your ones. this need a whole overwork of the dashbord. but for this plane I will do it.
Just a question of time. I hope that more than a dozen users will apreciate my trial to contribute to this fine ac you give us.
Now slowly preparing to go to work from 18:00 to 06:00.
I will see if from work I can have a look to the forum.
Tomorrow preparing my baggage and than taking the train home to my loved brittany
Huub do you know the region of Lorient ?
Yours
Papi

[Milton Shupe]

Hello Milton,
Would it be possible to get a checklist and references list
your bird is so hot that I fired up my pc before going to work and made a test flight
Wow, the VC is really pretty!
I tried out to fly at 3000ft altitude with the engine settings 24 map and 2100 rpm the plane really slows down a lot
34 and 2400 seems more real
What do you think about
a full flight test will be done after holydays
Oh please tell me how the fuel management and most important the fuel gauges should work. Perhaps I can find some solution via the gauges.
I will see later to change over from the A26 gauges to your ones. this need a whole overwork of the dashbord. but for this plane I will do it.
Just a question of time. I hope that more than a dozen users will apreciate my trial to contribute to this fine ac you give us.
Now slowly preparing to go to work from 18:00 to 06:00.
I will see if from work I can have a look to the forum.
Tomorrow preparing my baggage and than taking the train home to my loved brittany
Huub do you know the region of Lorient ?
Yours
Papi

Hello Papi,

The check lists will come with subsequent releases. This "pre-beta" (you might call it an alpha level test), is very raw in form, very incomplete of course, but I wanted to get this out to you all to help identify issues experienced on your systems, and make the models available to painters.

After initial takeoff, I set the map at 47" and rpms at 2400 for initial climbout.
Once in climb I gradually reduce MAP to 42", RPMs to 2200.
Cruise settings I use per my sources are: MAP at least 33" and RPMs in the 2000-2200 range depending on altitude and weight (18000 - 20000lbs). Ferry weights are heavier and require more MAP.
At 12000', I use 33" x 2200RPMs and get good peformance. See attached.

Keep approach speeds to 135-150kias.
Flaps and gear below 150kias are available.

Keep speeds to 115+ on short final with full flaps and power (depending on weight).
Cross the fence at 100+ with power as necessary.
Touch down with or w/out power is okay keeping nose wheel up slightly.

Retract flaps after stabilized rollout to enhance braking.
Open Cowl flaps and ground flaps.

Hope that helps a bit.

[SteveB]

Here's an update on last nights progress.

[Blackbird686]

I like the latest Russian scheme you're working on, Steve, my hope is that all of yours and Huub's paints will fit the final release.

My gaming machine is having some issues with FS9... Sometimes the ATC and pilot responses are a bit garbled. In the process of diagnosing and looking for fixes as I type. It just started up lastnight while I was in the P-70A2 model. The issue exists no matter what I'm flying. No worries tho, I have it all backed up if I need to resort to a compleat un-install. FSX seems OK tho...

BB686

[michaelvader]

Good evening Milton,

thank you for your advice,
I tried just out what has been written in the read me.
On the first "prototype" release I did fly most with
48 / 2400 for climb and
40 / 2200 with automatic rich mixture at 5000ft
landing was most with 42 / 45 and 2400 and mix full rich
must say that on these short flights the tanks will not empty a lot
as I mostly did short flight (Vannes to Brest, or Nantes to Brest and return to Vannes)
I did not fly at high altitudes. I fact just short trial flights to experiance my mods on the panels.
"Werkstattflüge" as a german would say.
I must say I' vera pleased to work on the panel for this bird. With all the docs I got from you,
there are a lot of possibilities that are still open to put into the panel.
Back from holydays it will interest me to reenhance the gauges and to have a closer look to the fuel switches - Will need a lot of reading !!! LOL !
Yours
Papi

[huub vink]

Looks great Steve, one of my favourite Russian liveries.

Here's what I've been struggling with...... and still not finished

[Sascha66]

Here's an update on last nights progress.

Instant favorite!

[gastonj]

Hallo Gaston,
it is a cornish crabber - a cornish crabber 24 MK I Nr 411
it s home is a Gavres near Lorient, normally she is under german flagg
the onliest gaffer under german flagg at brittanies coast.
in fact it was one of the last Mk I's and she has already the MK II hull but till the littler MK I rigg
she was launched in 1985.
Yes I love classic boats and airplanes

" Belle barque"! From this point of view, i was unable to make distinction between the Crabber and the Cutter. In addition it missed a size scale. I was sailing in Brittany some years ago mainly "Baie de Quiberon" and "Golfe du Morbihan", living in Vannes. Mine was moored "Chenal de Noyalo" near Séné, now Marseille, not same sailing conditions.
JMC

[jamminjames]

Between Huub, Wellis and SteveB I'll have an entire Air Force! Thanks ever so much for your fine work!!!!!!

[SteveB]

Glad you guys like them.
I have been playing with this one this evening. It was put back together after a crash landing, after running into flak.
North Baltic late 44.

[michaelvader]

Bonsoir Gaston,
in fact are you french?
in this case we can write in french.
Oh the region of the golf du morbihan et la baie de quiberon is very nice sailing area
would be interesting for huub also
for a while i sailed as skipper the ancient sinagot "Les Trois Freres" which was based most the time at
Port Navalo, but its home was Sene
coming back to flightsim, my "home base" is Vannes-Meucon.
very suitable and interesting for the Havoc.
In 42 hours I will be at home at Gavres
youhou
Yours
papi

[michaelvader]

Good evening Milton,

looking on the screenie I can not recognize the two windows over and left of the GPS
can you please tell me what they are?
Yours
Papi

[SteveB]

I'm calling this one done.

Soviet VVS, 27th GvAP, Western Ukraine, 1944.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x3btzewg4v...sovw2.zip?dl=0

[Milton Shupe]

Good evening Milton,

looking on the screenie I can not recognize the two windows over and left of the GPS
can you please tell me what they are?
Yours
Papi

Papi,

Far left and top is the freeware AFSD screen that shows everything important about the flight model. I displayed AoA there.

You can get it here: http://www.aero.sors.fr/designer_pilot_utilities.html

The other screen is the freeware "Convert" program. It converts units of measure for most anything you need to convert - distance, weights, speeds, etc.

You can get that here: https://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/

[gastonj]

Bonsoir Gaston,
in fact are you french?
in this case we can write in french.
Oh the region of the golf du morbihan et la baie de quiberon is very nice sailing area
would be interesting for huub also
for a while i sailed as skipper the ancient sinagot "Les Trois Freres" which was based most the time at
Port Navalo, but its home was Sene
coming back to flightsim, my "home base" is Vannes-Meucon.
very suitable and interesting for the Havoc.
In 42 hours I will be at home at Gavres
youhou
Yours
papi

Yes, i am French and of course we can write in French but may not be correct for those who do not understand it !
Just a try : Je connais très bien ce Sinagot, j'étais à Vannes en septembre dernier et il me semble l'avoir aperçu. J'étais assez proche d'un ancien marin pêcheur de Séné qui avait été l'un des derniers pratiquant le métier à la voile. Il avait embarqué sur le "Vainqueur des Jaloux". Mon premier bateau s'appelait "Pen Kaled", le deuxième "Stiren er Moor" en hommage au nom de son dernier bateau de travail. Maintenant, je suis revenu à (une appelation curieuse) "Gaston J", d'où mon pseudo.

Bon retour,
JMC

[nigel richards]

Here's what I've been struggling with...... and still not finished

That's not struggling - it's called winning!

Awesome work, Huub. :-)

[Blackbird686]

Outstanding!! You certainly have a knack for the weathered look... and the Havoc looks right at home in those schemes.

BB686

[downwind]

Beta item: I'm not seeing the "ghost" image of the spinning props on the G models.

Once the Beta phase is completed, is it best to wipe all of the A-20 files from my FS9 directory and use all fresh downloads?

[SteveB]

Winter is on it's way so thought it best I get prepared.

[Milton Shupe]

Beta item: I'm not seeing the "ghost" image of the spinning props on the G models.

Once the Beta phase is completed, is it best to wipe all of the A-20 files from my FS9 directory and use all fresh downloads?

Yes, looks like it is too transparent in the model.

Attached is a temporary replacement spinprop.bmp for your G texture folders.

Just unzip and copy replace to your "G" texture folders.

Once the full beta is released, it will be a full replacement of your current pre-beta release.

It will only include Wellis' textures so you must protect any downloaded liveries.

[Milton Shupe]

Winter is on it's way so thought it best I get prepared.

That looks appropriately grundgy for the wet, sloppy, snowy season. :-)

[Blackbird686]

Just look at your A-20's now Milton.... I remember when you first made mention of the A-20 Project, nearly 2 years ago... the Harpoons and Lodestars were in the final stages of development and the A-20 Havoc was just being laid out on the drawing board. Even in her still almost pre-beta condition, many have stepped up to the plate to help bring her to where she is now. A plethora of repaints from very talented folks and a very promising new feature in the weight and distribution (load out) panel. Not to mention a solid flight model, incredible sounds, awesome paints that come with the package and a very use-able VC... something all of your planes are famous for.

It helps when the community steps in and adds to an already extraordinary project like the A-20, and I believe that support will always be at your side for FS9, as well as FSX so, as "Rosy the Riveter" says: Keep em' Flying!

Ok.. I'll step off me soap box now.

BB686

[SteveB]

I have spent the last few hours on this one.

[huub vink]

I have spent the last few hours on this one.

Perhaps not yet finished but I already like it

Huub

[huub vink]

Milton,

What is considered as a bug in the FSX version happens to me in FS9 also. The weight of the internal and external transport tank is always in the fuel table no matter whether the tanks are selected in the load out panel or not. I have saved a flight without the extra tanks as default which currently solves the problem for me.

I hope this makes some sense......

Cheers,
Huub