Milton, don't know if you've seen these, but just in case...
http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/a...Nov-1970-L.gif
http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/a...Nov-1970-R.gif
One of those noses refers to a 2.7 BILLION candlepower searchlight! I did some looking and found this:
https://no23squadron.files.wordpress...turbinlite.jpg
Source page:
https://no23squadron.wordpress.com/2...oc-turbinlite/
Thermaltake H570 TG Tower
X670 Aorus Elite AX motherboard
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 12-Core Processor
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
NZXT Kraken X cooler
32GB DDR5 RAM
750 Watt PS
Windows 11 Home
The rest of the story: http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNe...ite-Havoc.aspx
Thank you Sir; I had not seen that particular set, although some of the pics are around the net.
Should have known that you were on top of things. :-)
I can't but it will be available to do should LDR or someone else choose to do so.
Last edited by Milton Shupe; November 28th, 2015 at 20:27.
One day closer to finishing :-)
Spent half of the day working on the front half of the fuselage and the other half with the vertical tail, rudder, and trimtab.
Looks about as ratty as the real thing. :-)
"Turbinlite" with modifications and improvements eventually became the "Leigh Light" used by Coastal Command Liberators, Fortresses and Halifaxes later in the war. That light was what took away the cover of darkness from U-boats charging their batteries on the surface at that time. So, indirectly, Turbinlite did contribute to the enemy's defeat. A more refined version wound up on P2Vs and other USN ASW aircraft post-war.
That's what we have so far ..... (Alpha)
Funny enough only after one day you can clearly see what it will become!
When I hear Milton was going to do a A20/Boston I also reinstalled the old Alphasim version. I must confess I uninstalled it immediately again. Amazing to see how spoiled we have become!
Cheers,
Huub
Huub,
I have it as well, and think that for a low poly version, for its time, the exterior model actually looks pretty good. But I agree, things have come a long way since computers today can handle much better details and large textures.
I am taking my time on this one trying to notch up the exterior a bit in hopes that someone will convert it to FSX native and give it proper treatment there.
I'll be a few more days on the fuselage trying to accommodate the variants by ensuring my cross-sections are best placed for the inevitable model changes.
I am trying to decide if the best approach would be to do the A-20A/B "turretless" style instead of the G first. It seems more logical to start at the beginning.
But populating the nose interior is best left until later.
For now, time to model the cockpit window frames, an arduous task always.
Question for you ....
Can you identify the purpose of the heavy plates on the sides of the nose section?
One of the frustrating parts about modeling from 3-views are the inconsistencies on the same authored prints.
This shows a comparison of the fuselage modeled to one and compared to the other.
Strangely, on the print where the side views do not match up, the top and bottom views do, all on the same print.
Of course we must also consider the different size and shaped noses for the variants.
I really feel for how tough drawing these 3-views can be, and across top/bottom/left/right/front/rear views.
Nothing new of course; we always have to deal with this, and will charge on. :-)
Milton,
These panels are also present at the aircraft in the pictures posted by John. They are behind the armament and according to the drawing I looked at they appear only on the later models.
I assume they are part of the extra armor which was introduces with the G and J models to protect the crew against ground fire.
About the drawings: I understand your frustration, but over the years I learned that even factory drawings are not always correct (understatement!). They normally show the designed aircraft and often this is not exactly the production aircraft. Not to mention common field modifications.......
Success,
Huub
There is a heavy armor protecting plate on the front bulkhead in front of the pilots and panel; it can be seen thru the later glass nosed variants.
I thoughe maybe these small side panels were either to protect the ammo cases for the forward guns or were there to support the recoil of the guns in the pods.
Yeah, it is extra armor plating - the solid-nosed A-20G/H and glass-nosed A-20J had about 400 lbs. of extra armor plating added, compared to earlier variants.
As seen in these photos (and some others I posted), there are actually two plates on either side of the nose, with the lower plates wrapping underneath the nose, and there are even corresponding sections/panels on the nose gear doors as well, so that the armor plating wraps all the way around under the nose when in flight. In these photos you can also see how thick the panels are. BTW, if you click on any of these photos I have shared, it will bring you to the Photobucket page and you can view all of these photos in much larger resolution. As can be seen by these photos, the guns and ammo cans are all positioned in front of the armor plating.
This diagram shows all of the locations of the armor plating on the A-20G/H/J. With the extra armor plating, the pilot was fairly well protected from head-on and below - just not from the side.
Any chance of an unarmed version that could be done into a Navy BD-1 target tug?
Let Being Helpful Be More Important Than Being Right.
WOW yes the bird I have been waiting for!
The RAAF had Bostons. I believe these are the same.
Cheers
Pat
"Some people might say that freedom is being alone in the bush with the only sounds being the murmurs from the birds ... but I believe freedom is at 5000 feet with no other sound than the engine roaring."- William Hutchison, a young man taken from us far too young (16).
Similar, but meeting the RAF's specifications. The aircraft was known as DB-7/ Bostons to the Brits and other buyers.
When the USAAF got in the game, the A-20 designation was used beginning with the A-20A.
Here is the breakdown and evolution from the DB-7 onward.
http://www.americancombatplanes.com/a20_1.html
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircr...ircraft_id=186
Looking forward to this one.
Well folks, the cockpit windows and windshield battle is still in progress but its one that must be fought. Making a little headway but the windshield look is being elusive at the moment. Five days or so and its getting less painful, but no less challenging. The issue is getting the quarter windows and curvature shaped correctly. Only time and due diligence will save the day, or week. :-)
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Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
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