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FSPilotShop now shows update (March 11).
FSPilotShop now shows update (March 11).
I have installed the update.
But I dont really know what to think:
The autopilot has disappeared. Its just not there, even though the manual clearly writes about it.
I still get no reading from the socalled ILS gauge. If I tune the nav receiver to a ILS, and the ADF receiver to an NDB, I get an ADF reading on the "thick" needle of the NAV1 and ADF gauge and a directional reading to the ILS on the "thin" needle of the NAV1 and ADF gauge. The socalled ILS gauge remains unactive.
I hope someone else will check this and reply to this thread and I hope someone from APH will chime in. And finally I hope that its because I´m to stupid to make it work.
btw, I use P3Dv2.4, I completely uninstalled the Swift before installing the updated version.
I also can not understand what they had upgraded.The bugs remain the same.The ILS indicator do not work.The altimeter set indication also isnot working.Set the box to hide the pilot on the configurator that reamain always visible.The manual state that the com and nav radio had a standby frequency, but in the aircraft cfg the standby frequency is set to 0.
Maury (and anyone else)
Do you have the autopilot in the updated version?
Hi, yes I have the autopilot, still available to me by the switch to the right of the co-pilot yoke.Originally Posted by donnybalonny
I also had the autopilot, with that switch
The vor indicator favoring the right hand side of the panel is attached to a #2 nav...
#1 vor and the adf are in the pilots side indicator..
Bill
To address the standby frequency thing: It's there, regardless of what the aircraft.cfg setting says. Tune a frequency, then click the outer portion of the on/off knob, tune a different frequency, then click the knob again. You'll see that you can flip back and forth between two channels.
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- The sound is improved I think? (the old sound never really bothered me)
- The yoke toggling when you hide/show the ap panel is fixed.
- The eyepoint tool is neat.
- The .air file is properly named to state GC-1A... however it's still a bit confusing in that the specs and performance still seem that this is a GC-1B, which is likely a good thing, otherwise no-one would get off the ground.
However,
- The altimeter set indication does not move
- The 'ILS' gauge does not seem to be tied to NAV1.
- The hands on the little clock do not seem to be settable
- The pilot does not seem to be able to be hid, regardless of unchecking the little box on the clipboard.
To be honest, it's all minor stuff really. Still having fun with it.
Jim Stewart
Honestly, what is going on at Aeroplane heaven??? Have they lost it?
I think its ok to put a nonfuncional gauge in a plane and write in the manual that its non funcional. No problem. But making an update that adresses the nonfuncional gauge without fixing it is far out.
Besides, why did my autopilot disappear?????? (A P3D issue that was not tested?)
If I had made this update, I wouldnt be proud of myself. And I think they should find some new beta testers instead of letting us the costumers who payed money for the addon be the beta testers.
I will stop using this plane for a while. All this fiddling with stuff that doesnt work is frustrating and takes away the focus of flying and its a petty, because the plane itself is nice. I will come back and enjoy the little Swift when things have calmed down a bit.
Btw, I made a popup radio window with 2 nav radios in order to test the ILS gauge and it didn´t respond. Everything else, ADF, Radio magnetic gauge, autopilot could be controled from that popup window. But not the ILS gauge.
I believe several people have already told you that the AP is hidden and made to reappear by using the switch on the bottom right of the panel to the right of the co-pilots yoke.. . .Besides, why did my autopilot disappear?????? (A P3D issue that was not tested?)
Last edited by falcon409; March 12th, 2015 at 19:17.
Donnybolonny, hadn't realised that you are a fellow luthier! Do you specialise or do you make instruments? I restore , mostly archtops.
I build Flamenco guitars and violins. And a harp is on its way. I dont restore. Where I live, there's absolute no money in that. But I have deep respect for those doing good restore jobs. Its a very complicated job.
Maybe you could restore the ILS gauge of the swift or maybe it would be better to build a new one.
I will check out to see if the autopilot shows up. This with the button was a fsx thing in the original release. i use p3d where it was always present.
Maybe you could restore the ILS gauge of the swift or maybe it would be better to build a new one.
I will check out to see if the autopilot shows up. This with the button was a fsx thing in the original release. i use p3d where it was always present.
WOW people - GIVE IT A REST !!!
Why would you want to make the pilot disappear ?? Someone has to fly the airplane - unless you want to make it a 'drone' !!! You can however move him over to the 'right seat' !!
Why do you want to sit there and play with knobs all day ?? In fact, back in those days, clocks where probably not part of the package !! As far as the altimeter goes, until such time as as AH fixes the knob issue, hit the "B" key on your keyboard to reset the altimeter - works great !!
As far as the autopilot switching panel goes, I like what they did - you can control it with the switch on the lower right hand instrument panel (as many have stated earlier) and it doesn't effect the pilot's yoke like it used to - AND you can still make the pilot's yoke disappear all by it's lonesome !! As far as the 'autopilot' goes, consider yourself lucky you got one - back in those days the 'autopilot' consisted of how well you could 'trim' the airplane (which in the Swift is up behind the pilots head )!!!
AGAIN as I said yesterday, there is NO ILS gauge in the Swift !! There are 2 VOR's 'Heads' .. Nav 1 is connected to the 'vor head' right in front of the pilot, Nav 2 in connected to the 'vor head' favoring the co-pilots side. If AH is at fault for doing (or not doing) anything, it's that they didn't configure the Nav 2 radio in the aircraft config file - which they had a 50 / 50 chance of getting right due to the fact they didn't know what kind of radio people where going to use !! So, with that said, if your using a 'single channel' receiver, go into your radio section of your 'aircraft cfg file' file, and for a 'single channel receiver' - Nav.2 = 1, 0, 0 and for a 'flip flop' radio, Nav.2 = 1, 1, 0
I agree, the #2 'vor head' didn't work on the original release (v1.0) but it works fine now with the update...
Jimmy: If you want a true / true "A" model, go into the aircraft config file - reduce the 'gross' weight down a bit, reduce the baggage weight down to about 40 pounds, and go into your engine section and reduce the 'horsepower' from 125 to 65 - now you'll have a true "A" model (which I believe they only made one of before they 'bumped' it to an 85 hp engine) !! Personally I look at it as having a "B" in an "A" body !!! AH gave us an airplane and elected to go with the most popular engine - which in a lot of cases where 'bumped' up to 145hp without much modification to it - then along came all the highly modified one's which involved a lot more items being modified / changed !!
Personally, I think AH gave us a very nice airplane 'out of the box' - and I'm sure they'll make updates to it along the way based on reasonable 'feedback' !! As we say in the RW, don't fly the airplane beyond it's capabilities OR YOURs !!
Bill
PS: Airplane works fine in FSX, P3D v1.4 AND P3D v2.+
Actually it isn't a P3D "thing". . .the original model was setup to show the AP when it loaded and that switch to turn it off and on was there from the beginning. Then with the update, when you initially load the airplane the AP is hidden and by using that switch it will reappear. . .but it was never a glitch or a P3D problem.
Finally upgraded from the demo and I'm happy with this plane...It's a plane I can just fly, not worrying about checklists, flows, complicated avionics, just look out the windows and fly. She coordinates nicely, has all the visual references for flying without looking at the gauges lol. It's a great representation of that era aircraft. Nice job AH.
Each to their own, but one of the things I sincerely enjoy is parking my aircraft at the end of a successful flight and taking a leisurely 'walk-around' to admire it. If the model offers it, I always hide the pilot when I do this, since I'm walking around and not sitting there inside the plane. Basically, I'm pretending that I'm 'there'.
Quite silly, I know.
My pointing it out was merely to say that it seems like it's an option that is non-functional. If it's not, that's fine too. I've also stated that the few things I notice are minor and in no way detract from my experience. If the developer chooses to not fix them, then I'll still enjoy the plane just the way it is. If they do fix them, well, then they'll rise even higher in my books than they already are!
While I do believe that there is no reason to nit-pick or complain, especially with a high value / low price, wonderful addition to my hanger, I also believe that if we always choose to keep absolutely quiet about bugs that we might notice then we are simply complementing the emperor on his fine clothes.
Besides, honest praise is the most worthwhile. I feel I've given my share of that; to the point where I felt it was necessary for as many other people as possible to know about the release of this aircraft and have done my best to promote it to the community outside of this particular forum. More people know = more success for the developer = more great aircraft from the developer.
Jim Stewart
[QUOTE=WND;942367]WOW people - GIVE IT A REST !!!
AGAIN as I said yesterday, there is NO ILS gauge in the Swift !! There are 2 VOR's 'Heads' .. Nav 1 is connected to the 'vor head' right in front of the pilot, Nav 2 in connected to the 'vor head' favoring the co-pilots side. If AH is at fault for doing (or not doing) anything, it's that they didn't configure the Nav 2 radio in the aircraft config file - which they had a 50 / 50 chance of getting right due to the fact they didn't know what kind of radio people where going to use !! So, with that said, if your using a 'single channel' receiver, go into your radio section of your 'aircraft cfg file' file, and for a 'single channel receiver' - Nav.2 = 1, 0, 0 and for a 'flip flop' radio, Nav.2 = 1, 1, 0
I agree, the #2 'vor head' didn't work on the original release (v1.0) but it works fine now with the update...
I try that but the radio set only the nav1 .For get the vor 2 indicator to work i had to add a nav 2 radio as a window popup?
The autopilot thing was me not knowing. In the confusion and frustration with the upgrade, I didn´t realise that they had changed the way the autopilot appears or no. I always had autopilot in the original version. I apologize if I sounded to harsh.
Instead of getting all winded up about what kind of gauge is this and that, read the manual and the update. APH calls the gauge an ILS gauge... ok?
They also wrote in the update that this gauge has been fixed. Thats not true and has caused a lot of confusion and even anger. Its not a good way to start business.
As it is now, there´s what I call a radio compas, the one with the 2 needles that requires 1 nav radio and 1 adf radio. And then there´s the ILS/vor gauge requiring another nav radio.
Since there´s only 1 nav. radio, I would have prefered that it was going to a Vor1 and that the ADF was going to a dedicated ADF gauge (without the radio compas needle) It would have been simpler and a better option to this.
As I wrote before, I´m personally taking abreak with this addon. All this fuzz and trying things has taken the energy away from the lovely little plane that the APH Swift is. I will come back to it with a new energy another time and fly something else in the meantime..
And next time APH/Just flight sends out an AC, I will wait and see how things are going before purchasing. I dont like to be a paying beta-tester. But since I like the Swift and the Chipmunk as well, I will always check in and see what APH is doing.
Sorry Maury - I failed to mention that !! You have to add a Nav2 radio to a 'pop up' then go configure the radio in the aircraft cfg file to co-inside with the type radio your using..
Bill
I would have to say I agree with ya Jimmy. I'll do the same thing (after flight walk around) especially if I want to take a picture and if it's capable I'll get rid of the pilots for the picture .. It's just after a while (at least for me) I get tired of the 'nit-pick' and / or 'public bashing' of something after realizing and having a general idea of what it takes to produce something like this..
Unfortunately your comments got caught up in other comments I had just read from another post so I apologize for using yours as an example ..Usually when / if I find stuff with an airplane I like, I quietly PM or E-mail the developer with such issue's and from past experiences it either gets me a good explanation why it was done the way it was done or it gets rectified quicker !!
I guess I handle my 'bug report' a little differently than most !!! lol
If I got a plane or whatever that really upsets me and I've paid for it, I'll ask for a refund or if I got a 'freeware' that I don't like, I'll delete it and move on..
Bill
OK chaps, we have given the Swift a thorough check again and have found an error for which we must apologise. I think it will settle all disputes and return the Swift to favour for some.
You see, we inadvertently assigned the coding for the "ILS" (let's call it a CDI needle (the one that should swing left or right if off course) to Nav2. , the clock's trip time hands are now settable and among a few other things we have included two new liveries to make up. So that should settle the feathers. We'll be uploading the Patch V1.2 this weekend.
Bazzar, you are to be applauded for your pre and post-sale efforts.
Great to see AH back in business.
[QUOTE=Portia911;942512]Bazzar, you are to be applauded for your pre and post-sale efforts.
Great to see AH back in business.[/QUOTE
I agree. I have not yet installed the 1st update, will wait for the 2nd update.
Bazzar, that's mighty grand of you folks to provide a quick second update.
Meanwhile, I'm currently planning on where I'm going to fly my Swift tonight!
Jim Stewart
Playing with the Swift a bit more tonight.
Simulating a linkage failure on the left flap, resulting in an asymmetric flap condition...
Jim Stewart
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