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    12 April 2014 and in the back the glass case where it all started.........



    Cheers,
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    I have to say, that looks fantastic! As far as manufacturers are concerned, I like the little details. Like how the doors on a SAAB 900 cut into the sill to make entry and exit easier and less messy in the snow or the rear view mirror on my GTV6 isn't rectangular, but a trapezoid to perfectly frame the rear window. On the Fokker, I like how the instrument panel is offset to the right so the pilot can see through the nose glazing when taxying. (At least it looks like that's possible. I'll have to wait until I'm in the VC to know for sure!)

  3. #453
    Absolutely beautiful modeling.

  4. #454
    A good wine get's even better with age.

    6 Years in the making, and now ready for beta testing. I am excited to take this one in the air once released (I am not a good beta tester).

    The pics speak for themselves, so great job, Daan.
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  5. #455
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    Hey Daan,

    I would love to try to convert this magnificent bird to MSFS and test her in that sim for you. But of course, there are real guru's on this site that could do it for you!

    Priller
    That would be great.

    I took your conversion of Daan's Fokker D.21 to the air in FS2020 last night. And I had so much fun, that I didn't realize it was 3:15am by the time I looked at the clock, whoops.

    Would be great to add this bomber to the hangar.
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  6. #456
    I have a question for Daan and Huub: how did these babies perform in WWII?

    I hope they were less of a disaster then the Fairey Battles that we had!

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    Hi Jan,

    Well, the story of the T.5 is interesting. In short.
    The project started from the specifications by the army for a "Luchtkruiser", an armed, long-range patrol plane.
    Through the design process, the design made quite some evolutions, some designs are reminiscent of later, well known British bombers.
    The concept "Luchtkruiser" appeared to be not very realistic, and the airplane became a bomber. Still, some remnants of the first specification are present.

    During the invasion, a number of them were broken or in maintenance (only 16 have been built actually!). Few were operational, but with these few, they flew some well-known missions.
    The one that interests me the most, is this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SihtzhCiVIU&t=131s

    But in the end, none had real succes. A number were destroyed, or crashed, and one or two were confiscated by the Germans. There are actually photographs of a T.5 with swastikas, Balkenkreuzen and a German registration.

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    Jan,

    The performance of the Fokker T.V can be compared with the Vickers Wellington. Nice aircraft for their expected role, but they don't stand a change when flying without the cover of darkness or a heavy fighter escort. The Dutch Fokker T.Vs had none of these, so they simply didn't stand a chance.

    As Daan already explained the aircraft was originally designed for a completely different role. When you realise that the Netherlands remained neutral during the first world war, it isn't that strange they wanted a long range aircraft to patrol the borders. When the Netherlands started to realise that they would be dragged into the next war, they started to build up their defence force, however too late and too few.

    Below a picture of one of the captured T.Vs Daan was mentioning. There were 5 captured and 4 ended in Luftwaffe service. The fifth was cannibalised for spare parts.

    Cheers,
    Huub


  9. #459
    Man, I'd love to have this as a sightseeing aircraft in X-Plane (glass nose!).

  10. #460
    Guys, thanks for the reactions!
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  11. #461
    Hi all,

    Beta testing is well underway. There's roughly 15 items to be addressed. Some are details, but the major thing is the sytems modelling.

    I've modelled most T.5 systems from what I knew (from the handbook) with the means that I have. So the systems modelling might be accurate when following the written route, but is not robust and difficult to understand and perform correctly.

    I will improve this, by making it less complex. This will probably go at the expense of systems depth, but better a more robust system.

    So far, it also works fine in 64-bit P3D, with the only change being the sound gauge of Dawson.

    If things run well, it might be released this year.

    Cheers, Daan
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  12. #462
    Haven't been commenting on the thread much, but I love seeing these updates. Dutcheeseblend, fantastic work on this plane. I love how much detail you put into the interior and look forward to flying her. Truly stellar and inspiring work, you really motivate me to work on my own models, knowing that aircraft of this quality are possible in FSX.

    Well done, mate!
    -Matt

  13. #463
    Thanks Maty! I love to read that!

    Meanwhile...writing the manual...


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    Just finished the first version of the manual!
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    Great! I haven't forgotten you but real life is consuming some time.

    Cheers,
    Huub

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    No problem Huub!

    Now during flying this plane, we remarked that the airspeed indicator is only used for the first half of the range (0-650 km/h), and that the stall speed is one third below the first major tick (150 km/h while landing speed is 105 km/h). During writing of the manual, I found out that the installed airspeed indicator should have had a range of 0-550 km/h, which is confirmed by photographs. Also, the first major tick is at 100 km/h, making it more convenient to read in the critical regime.
    By the way, I just finished reading this book: https://geromybv.nl/home/silent-key-...s-a-hoefnagel/
    It's about a former T.5 radio-operator, who stated that T.5s reached 500 km/h (indicated) during dive bombing in the war. He also described that these dives were ended at rooftop level. In his own words, the T.5 was 'een trouwe machine' and that's one of the few positive words I've ever read about the T.5. The only other positive words are that it performed better (in airspeeds) than predicited during design phase.

    So I found out that I still used the D.21 airspeed indicator. Therefore I converted it to the T.5's range.
    Probably I need to redo the RPM-indicator as well, since it ranges from 0-4000 where it should 0-3000 (according to images since the manual says it's reading 600-3500).

    For the release, I probably will make an introduction video. Although I've written down everything in the manual, it's just sooooo much. I needed twenty images to describe the interior's functionality.
    One thing that comforts me yet, is that everything works as it did on the real deal.

    Cheers, Daan
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  17. #467
    What is a bomber without bombs (or even a bomb rack)?

    Funny enough, no one has noticed the absence of a modelled bomb bay.
    Yet, I was aware of it and just started on it.



    This is my reference: https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/f...%22Foto%27s%22
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    Although I had a quick look and noticed there was no interior in the bomb bay, I did not mention this. There were two reasons. How many virtual pilot will actually look in this bomb bay? And the other reason was that it is actually quite authentic. As there were severe problems with them and I understood that not all had been delivered and/or installed in May 1940....

    But as usual, the racks look pretty good.

    Cheers,
    Huub

  20. #470
    Indeed, to me it's still unknown which T.5s flew with which type of rack: the Dutch or German one.
    And neither did I draw a solid conclusion on the bomb load.
    I eventually came up with three load cases:

    A: two bombs of 500 kg
    B: four bombs of 200 kg
    C: sixteen bombs of 50 kg.

    So that's what I modeled. Testing the visibility logic right now.
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  22. #472
    wow, I didn't know this project
    English is not my native language, I ask your indulgence.
    Correct me, if you will.

  23. #473
    Bombs away!!!

    Looking great.
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  24. #474
    Also added a bombsight using the functionality of FS9VIEW. Unfortunately, I could not render this view on a 3D poly (as I wished to plot it at the model of the instrument), but well, guess this is enough.


    You could adjust its angle as well, with the knurled knob at the right hand side of the model.

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  25. #475
    Looks like it's got frost on it, lol.

    I love the work you put into this one.
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