Paint Schemes MilViz F-4 Phantom

**ak416** · September 23rd, 2014, 06:02

Check your email guys, new build is out

**Naruto-kun** · September 23rd, 2014, 07:47

And you might be in for a surprise if your speed drops below mach 1 in a turn.

**Dumonceau** · September 23rd, 2014, 09:54

Originally Posted by Naruto-kun

And you might be in for a surprise if your speed drops below mach 1 in a turn.

Indeed... The thing has become almost unflyable. I wonder what a driver like the late Brig.Gen. Robin Olds would have to say about that.

When I was young and still visiting airshows all over europe, I saw many F-4 demo's and these pilots turned HARD below mach 1 Full burner, but still below Mach 1. The German F-4F demo's were most impressive.

With the new version, this isn't possible anymore.

I hope this gets corrected. The roll rate seems more like that of a T-38 than that of a Phantom.

The modelling corrections are nice though.

And yes, I know, we have to take this up on the milviz forums... *sigh*

Dumonceau

**Katoun** · September 23rd, 2014, 10:16

Hi,

I have just asked Colin to try this and, for him at least, he was able to fly at burner below mach 1 whilst in a very hard turn. He did nearly black out though and that's the point. In hard turns, where lift is needed, the slats auto open. This creates an immense amount of G force (1G approx). This is what causes the blackout.

If this is what you mean, then it's right.

As well, with three (3) actual, verified Phantom pilots (one of whom flew F-4F's) we're pretty sure we're getting it right. If you wish, feel free to take it up with them but if you check published materials (we will be releasing a manual soon), the performance is pretty much on the numbers.

**Naruto-kun** · September 23rd, 2014, 10:52

Its not so much the ability to turn below mach 1 but what happens if you are turning above mach 1 and your speed drops below mach 1 in the turn. You are in for a little surprise there....one that is warned of in the manual.

**Gene K** · September 24th, 2014, 03:01

Originally Posted by Naruto-kun

Its not so much the ability to turn below mach 1 but what happens if you are turning above mach 1 and your speed drops below mach 1 in the turn. You are in for a little surprise there....one that is warned of in the manual.

That's called "Mach Tuck" - the point at which the stabs "suddenly" become more effective than they were supersonic - was around .94, I think.

Gene K

**Naruto-kun** · September 24th, 2014, 03:29

Yep. I don't think it has been seen in FSX till now. Anyone else feel free to correct me.

***stovall*** · September 24th, 2014, 06:22

"Mach Tuck", things have come a long way since my first Flight Sim purchase from Circuit City years ago. Great work guy in all areas of our hobby.

**MDIvey** · September 24th, 2014, 08:54

Kat... really enjoying the new build... but I was hoping the J model would be included in this one as it was so long in the pipeline. Next build maybe?

Its great to have the working slats in this model...very impressive.

Matt

**Katoun** · September 24th, 2014, 09:04

Hi,

Colin says that the J will be in the final product for sure but until the external is done 100%, the J will not be released. We will need to assign everything over to the J so doing it twice is not in the cards.

Thank you.

Kat.

**MDIvey** · September 24th, 2014, 09:46

Understood. Thanks for reply.

Matt

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**Naruto-kun** · September 29th, 2014, 10:16

Is it me or is Zsolt mass producing paints?

**ZsoltB** · September 29th, 2014, 10:29

Originally Posted by Naruto-kun

Is it me or is Zsolt mass producing paints?

**ZsoltB** · September 29th, 2014, 10:32

I need the correct USAF roundel template pack!

Any idea?

**mirage3** · September 29th, 2014, 11:56

What you mean with that?

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**ZsoltB** · September 29th, 2014, 12:28

Originally Posted by mirage3

What you mean with that?

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The kit, in which the layers are USAF roundels

**ZsoltB** · September 29th, 2014, 12:43

**Peg o my heart** · September 29th, 2014, 21:14

Thought I would just wait til it is complete but I cant resist to get the beta version NOW. However my GPU is not dx11 supported, will I have issues running the Phantom?

Thanks

**Naruto-kun** · September 29th, 2014, 21:41

Originally Posted by Peg o my heart

Thought I would just wait til it is complete but I cant resist to get the beta version NOW. However my GPU is not dx11 supported, will I have issues running the Phantom?

Thanks

If it supports DX10 at least then no you will be fine.