HMS Victorious circa 1960

[dhasdell]

More with the Sea Venom:

[spatialpro]

More with the Sea Venom:

With no FLOLS! :-O

[SkippyBing]

With no FLOLS! :-O

Technically it's not a FLOLS, it's a MOLS (Mirror Optical Landing System), hence the row of lights further aft to bounce off the concave vertical mirror. Not that I read a whole document on optical landing aids to figure out what to put there!

[fallenphoenix1986]

Love the new ship but I'm starting to think I made a mess of te install - that or I'm shooting a perfect approach every single time, I can't get the "meatball" to be anything other than centred perfectly between the green bars. This is if I don't use the RFN gauge, if I do use it I get no lights whatsoever regardless of how I fly the approach, once tunned in I get the course corrections on the ILS and the LSO voice works, no lights however.

Also might have found a slight typo in the read me?

There is no "RFN_Gauge.xml" in the RFN 4.1 pack so I've added the following lines* to the eng of "RFN_Carrier.xml".

*
<!--?xml version="1.0"?-->
<carrier helo_distance="0"
Helo_Bearing="0"
Sim_Name_Helo="none"
TCN_Zcoord="1.63"
TCN_Ycoord="39.48"
TCN_Xcoord="14.97"
ILS_Zcoord="-55.0"
ILS_Ycoord="13.00"
ILS_Xcoord="-2.25"
GS_Angle="3.6"
RunwayAngle="8.0"
Language="US"
Frequency="117.20"
CarrierType="1"
Sim_Name="Victorious_1958"
Name="HMS Victorious 1958"/>

Craig</carrier>

[dhasdell]

FLOLS or MOLS, I still haven't got it installed yet.

[expat]

Tried my own mods to the the ealier Victorious RFN 4.1 xml entry - and also Craig's - but no show on the TACAN at 117.20 for some reason. Other boats work fine.

[expat]

Got it! Did a reload of the entries in the d/l and that did the trick.

[fallenphoenix1986]

I had originally started posting that I couldnt get the frequency to apear, manaeged to eventually but it was out of sequence for some reason.

Craig

[William Njurmi]

Hi,

Norton nailed the installer, but the exe can be returned from the quarantine.

If I proceed with the installer, how do you use the HMS Victorius? Does it have certain location or does it have a traffic.bgl file to get running somewhere?

[JensOle]

With aicarrier.

[NickB]

Superb work as always Flying Stations.

Anyone know if there is a Blue and Yellow paint for the Alphasim Westland whirlwind to match the guard helicopter? and if so where to get it?

Matt

Matt, I uploaded an earlier version of this S-55 to Avsim I think, a couple of years ago, but it's not there any more. I can send it to you if you like.

[Skyhawk_310R]

There were some discussions about the British bringing back the standard carriers for the F-35. This thread prompted my curiosity. What's the status of that?

Ken

[Skyhawk_310R]

Back to this work -- stunning! I love the detail of if and frankly I've always had a love crush on the design and functionality of these RN carriers and their aircraft, and this piece of work captures it all magnificently!

Ken

[fallenphoenix1986]

There were some discussions about the British bringing back the standard carriers for the F-35. This thread prompted my curiosity. What's the status of that?

Ken

The government officially made a Uturn fromSTOVL to CTOL then a year or so latter made another Uturn back to STOVL. They then turned around and asked why the cost went up - dunno maybe something to do with screwing the contractors around for over a year and having them undertake a series of pointless design studies - open up new supply chains and redirect the construction shedule for (ultimately) no reason whatsoever and then having them work it all back in reverse to get back to where they were before Mr Politician stuck his ignorant nose in.... Rant over....

Craig

edit:
Oh yeah - Mr Politician then decided to make another swing of the defence cut axe to recoup the costs of the aformentioned screw up...

[SkippyBing]

They then turned around and asked why the cost went up

To be fair the contract was for a carrier that could be converted to take cats and traps so it's not unreasonable to ask why having it done was apparently going to double the cost of the ships...

[fallenphoenix1986]

Granted a redesign was required in places however the simple act of screwing up the production timeline added hundreds of millions to the price, case in point you're having your kitchen renovated; mid way through you tell your contractor to stop and order/install different appliances in different locations and you want tiled walls instead of paint, he goes away orders a new oven/fridge/freezer/whatever, comes up with new arangements and returns in two weeks, you then tell him not to bother and go back to what was originaly planned - would you expect the contractor to stick to the original price? Or will he bill you for the time, effort and expenses incurred by the homeowner meddling in his plan?

The ships could have been fitted out CTOL - but noone ever said you would be able to do it at the drop of a hat, additional hardware displaces existing arangements and power distribution would be radically affected - still possible though.

Craig

Sorry if I'm a bit sharp on this but I was involved in fixing some of that mess IRL.

[SkippyBing]

At the prices BAE charge I'd expect the things to be gold plated, but then I'm generally cynical about anything they tell me.

[Skyhawk_310R]

Granted a redesign was required in places however the simple act of screwing up the production timeline added hundreds of millions to the price, case in point you're having your kitchen renovated; mid way through you tell your contractor to stop and order/install different appliances in different locations and you want tiled walls instead of paint, he goes away orders a new oven/fridge/freezer/whatever, comes up with new arangements and returns in two weeks, you then tell him not to bother and go back to what was originaly planned - would you expect the contractor to stick to the original price? Or will he bill you for the time, effort and expenses incurred by the homeowner meddling in his plan?

The ships could have been fitted out CTOL - but noone ever said you would be able to do it at the drop of a hat, additional hardware displaces existing arangements and power distribution would be radically affected - still possible though.

Craig

Sorry if I'm a bit sharp on this but I was involved in fixing some of that mess IRL.

Shame you cannot design your politicians as well as your aircraft carriers! Then again, you don't exactly have a monopoly on that sort of stuff!

Ken

[SkippyBing]

Granted a redesign was required in places however the simple act of screwing up the production timeline added hundreds of millions to the price, case in point you're having your kitchen renovated; mid way through you tell your contractor to stop and order/install different appliances in different locations and you want tiled walls instead of paint, he goes away orders a new oven/fridge/freezer/whatever, comes up with new arangements and returns in two weeks, you then tell him not to bother and go back to what was originaly planned - would you expect the contractor to stick to the original price? Or will he bill you for the time, effort and expenses incurred by the homeowner meddling in his plan?

The ships could have been fitted out CTOL - but noone ever said you would be able to do it at the drop of a hat, additional hardware displaces existing arangements and power distribution would be radically affected - still possible though.

Craig

Sorry if I'm a bit sharp on this but I was involved in fixing some of that mess IRL.

Off course in this example the kitchen contractor is being paid a minimum fee every year whether or not he fits a kitchen, in which case I'd expect a bit of flexibility. Not blaming you but having read the Haddon-Cave report I don't trust BAE's management as far as I can throw them.

[JensOle]

On demand I have zipped up the Fairey Gannet AEW.3 "423" 849 NAS Victorious repaint. Enjoy!

[dhasdell]

Thank you very much.