Is anyone making a Boeing 314 Clipper FsX?

***Roger*** · September 8th, 2013, 14:41

As the title suggests does anyone know of an FsX 314 in the making? I'm sure it would be a good seller for a payware vendor (see my avatar).

***Spad54*** · September 8th, 2013, 14:47

Originally Posted by Roger

As the title suggests does anyone know of an FsX 314 in the making? I'm sure it would be a good seller for a payware vendor (see my avatar).

We've discussed it but that's as far as we have gone. It's behind the Boeing 247 and the Grumman Widgeon

**CWOJackson** · September 8th, 2013, 14:53

Rather than another of something I'd love a 314; imagine one with Accusim. At one time one of the higher end freelance developers mentioned it as a future project; Piglet????

I kept FS9 installed on my old FS computer primarily because of the Pilot's 314. It's dialed back to the 30's and is mostly used for Pan Am period aircraft and routes.

***Roger*** · September 8th, 2013, 14:56

Originally Posted by CWOJackson

Rather than another of something I'd love a 314; imagine one with Accusim. At one time one of the higher end freelance developers mentioned it as a future project; Piglet????

I kept FS9 installed on my old FS computer primarily because of the Pilot's 314. It's dialed back to the 30's and is mostly used for Pan Am period aircraft and routes.

I believe Jens (JBK) was considering making a 314 but he seems to have left plane making behind for now...

***Spad54*** · September 8th, 2013, 15:05

Originally Posted by CWOJackson

Rather than another of something I'd love a 314; imagine one with Accusim. At one time one of the higher end freelance developers mentioned it as a future project; Piglet????

I kept FS9 installed on my old FS computer primarily because of the Pilot's 314. It's dialed back to the 30's and is mostly used for Pan Am period aircraft and routes.

I'm sorry what do you mean another of something? Are you implying that if GAS did it it would not be properly done? If so, sir, we take offense

**ViperPilot2** · September 8th, 2013, 15:09

Roger, I don't know if you've explored this possibility, but someone did an 'FSX upgrade' to Mike Stone's B-314 Clipper at one point...

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**PutPut** · September 8th, 2013, 15:16

Originally Posted by Roger

I believe Jens (JBK) was considering making a 314 but he seems to have left plane making behind for now...

Yeah, the last I heard he was heavily involved in Wakefield class rubber powered model airplanes.

Best, Paul

***Roger*** · September 8th, 2013, 15:24

Originally Posted by ViperPilot2

Roger, I don't know if you've explored this possibility, but someone did an 'FSX upgrade' to Mike Stone's B-314 Clipper at one point...

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The issue is that as I run FsX in Dx10 an Fs9 model would not work well in Dx10. Maybe when we finally get Steve Parsons Dx10 fixer program, an Fs9 model might not look so bad? If that were the case I would try an install of the Pilots B314 that I still have on disk somewhere.

**CWOJackson** · September 8th, 2013, 15:32

Originally Posted by Spad54

I'm sorry what do you mean another of something? Are you implying that if GAS did it it would not be properly done? If so, sir, we take offense

When I say "another of something" I'm referring to the redundancy (another) we see in some aircraft, for instance Mustangs and Spitfires and even the Cub. Yes, each and every rendition brings something new but it's something slightly new to the same thing.

**Delta_Whiskey** · September 8th, 2013, 16:06

when freeware developers fade away you will only get what will sell.

**txnetcop** · September 8th, 2013, 16:34

I'm with you Roger...I would love to see a very thoroughly done 314. I read Night Over Water by Ken Follett and that really got the juices flowing. I would like to see a full tour even a cabin or cabins with lower deck diner, a crewman seat in the engines compartments, a full engineer and navigator compartment, etc...I know I'm dreaming!

http://www.clipperflyingboats.com/pan-am/boeing-b314

Ted

***ColoKent*** · September 8th, 2013, 17:10

Originally Posted by CWOJackson

When I say "another of something" I'm referring to the redundancy (another) we see in some aircraft, for instance Mustangs and Spitfires and even the Cub. Yes, each and every rendition brings something new but it's something slightly new to the same thing.

Or EE Canberras, for god's sake....and yet STILL no proper FSX-native B-57B, C, E to be seen....

Kent

**Firekitten** · September 8th, 2013, 23:05

Originally Posted by Delta_Whiskey

when freeware developers fade away you will only get what will sell.

More likely that in time, payware will drift away and we'll be left with the freeware developers we started with...

As for the clipper... Mikes is... showing its age now, its a simple low poly model, no vc... questionable flight model, but hes fairly clear on that note... he made it for himself and shared it, and credit to him for that.

I'd love a good clipper

Really one of the big classics we're missing... A2A Captain of the ship Boeing B314?

Oh yes please.

**CWOJackson** · September 9th, 2013, 05:44

Here's a link for 314 fans. A full sized replica.

http://www.flyingboatmuseum.com/b314_replica.html

Two years ago this was a topic of interest with the folks at the Boeing Museum of Flight; they hadn't been aware of the Foynes project.

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**Bjoern** · September 9th, 2013, 06:51

Originally Posted by ColoKent

Or EE Canberras, for god's sake....and yet STILL no proper FSX-native B-57B, C, E to be seen....

Ask Virtavia.

**ViperPilot2** · September 9th, 2013, 07:33

Originally Posted by Roger

The issue is that as I run FsX in Dx10 an Fs9 model would not work well in Dx10. Maybe when we finally get Steve Parsons Dx10 fixer program, an Fs9 model might not look so bad? If that were the case I would try an install of the Pilots B314 that I still have on disk somewhere.

Roger,

Ahhh, I understand.

At a flea market recently I picked up a collection of Airpower magazines from 1977, and at that time they did a series of articles on the Boeing 314, with tons of photos showing Assembly and Testing, including several tail configurations (single and twin tails ala B-24/25) until deciding on the tri tail config.

BTW... have you ever read The Long Way Home, by Ed Dover? An awesome read about Robert Ford's around the World trip in NC18602.

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***srgalahad*** · September 9th, 2013, 12:53

Wouldn't it be nice, along with the 314, to have a detailed scenery of the LaGuardia Marine Terminal: "the only active airport terminal dating from the first generation of passenger travel in the United States—the "Golden age of the flying boat."

http://airchive.com/html/airplanes-a...new-york-usa/7

***ColoKent*** · September 9th, 2013, 15:04

Originally Posted by Bjoern

Ask Virtavia.

Already did...quite some time ago....was told basically: "There will be no FSX upgrade for the B-57 like we did for the EE Canberra".

i like how you think, though!

Regards,

Kent

***FAC257*** · September 9th, 2013, 15:07

At last year's fly-in at our local grass airstrip, I saw this old gentleman sitting under this small tent with pictures of flying boats. He was sitting there basically by himself with no one looking at his stuff. I had to know, so I stopped and introduced myself and started talking to him.

His name is Bill Nash and retired not far south of here. He started flying clippers for PanAm back in 1942. By the time he finally retired he was flying 727's. While driving away, after looking at the aircraft that had arrived, I couldn't help thinking about all the folks walking past living history and not even taking the time to talk to him.

BTW, Doing a search on "Bill Nash, Flying Boats, Clipper Ships" etc., will turn up some cool info on him and pictures in his youthful days as a pilot.

FAC

***ColoKent*** · September 9th, 2013, 15:58

...a highly detailed 314 would be AWESOME!

K

**CWOJackson** · September 9th, 2013, 16:00

Originally Posted by FAC257

At last year's fly-in at our local grass airstrip, I saw this old gentleman sitting under this small tent with pictures of flying boats. He was sitting there basically by himself with no one looking at his stuff. I had to know, so I stopped and introduced myself and started talking to him.

His name is Bill Nash and retired not far south of here. He started flying clippers for PanAm back in 1942. By the time he finally retired he was flying 727's. While driving away, after looking at the aircraft that had arrived, I couldn't help thinking about all the folks walking past living history and not even taking the time to talk to him.

BTW, Doing a search on "Bill Nash, Flying Boats, Clipper Ships" etc., will turn up some cool info on him and pictures in his youthful days as a pilot.

FAC

Fascinating man (thanks for the post).

I did the search you suggested and it sounds like he was one of the pilots who continued flying Clippers during the war.

Juan Trippe created something unique with the early Pan Am. The Long Way Home (book recommended by ViperPilot2) provides a very good explanation of the special relationship that Pan Am had with it's pilots and other employees. The exploits they had getting their people out of harms way, and seconding many of them and their aircraft/materials to the military, makes interesting ready.

Whenever I see an old timer at an air show I make sure to stop. I had the pleasure of spending some enjoyable time with George Gay at a Wright-Patt airshow in the mid 80's.

**Naismith** · September 9th, 2013, 23:28

I was going to say, then I realised I'm in the FSX forum not FS2004. Though I seem to remember "Pilots" the folk who distributed 'Global Mesh' for 9 & X did a Clipper. No clue if it is still available or even if it would work in X.

Edit found it.
its really old now so unlikely to work in FSX

http://secure.simmarket.com/pilots-b...nline-v2.phtml

Plus looking links it seems any support it ever had has dried up.

***arrowmaker*** · September 10th, 2013, 09:56

A couple of years ago I asked Mathijis Kok, of Aerosoft, if there was any chance of Aerosoft doing a Boeing 314, in the same vein as their Catalina. He stated that although he personally loved the plane he could not foresee Aerosoft producing such a model. Most simmers he believed bought simulations of aircraft that still existed in the real world. As there are no existing 314's he did not think it made sense, at least from a business viewpoint, to produce such a model.

**AndyG43** · September 10th, 2013, 10:12

Originally Posted by arrowmaker

As there are no existing 314's he did not think it made sense, at least from a business viewpoint, to produce such a model.

Well, none of the originals are still intact (but that may change) but there is a very good full size replica at the Foynes Flying Boat Museum, a visit here is definitely on my to do list!