On the slipway...Majestic class???

**JensOle** · July 29th, 2013, 14:21

That's just the beginning on my Canadian repaint, just to check some decals.

**Essex** · July 29th, 2013, 14:53

I'm not sure that either of these solutions are acceptable.
On one hand using two mdl files seems silly, but if we are using aicarriers anyway (for the Seaking etc) it's no problem. I'm fairly sure the lights could be raised up a bit at least and possibly rotated a few degrees.

[formation.x]
title=HMS.Majestic night
unit.0=HMS_MAJESTIC_night, 0, 69
unit.1=MAJESTIC_FLOLS, 0, 69

The other solution is fine for day use although it's a shame the deck layouts vary between ships, I've lined the lights up on Majestic, so they are not as well placed for the other two. Night use is a bit unusual.

model.noFlols is the original model folder renamed.

Hopefully both work.

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**lazarus** · July 30th, 2013, 13:52

Thanks Essex. Everyone; I'm approaching this as open source, so feel free to post mods, grind and hammer on the model, whatever- the only nono is paywareing it. A remote possibility, I grant you, and I couldn't do much about it anyway, so I'm not even worried about it. The source files for sketchup to date posted to 3dwarehouse, updated models uploaded as they come.

Actually, I was thinking that the FLOLS as a separate model was a great interim solution! Nothing wrong with that at all. AICarriers has become a great way to pull off all kinds of unanticipated stuff. We need something similar for weapons....

S2F repaints, big stash here.
http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib....rchid=13082725

or search 'S2F' The repaint page comes up. Took me a bit to find where all those went to!

Jens, the deck looks great, can't wait. When its done, shoot me a copy, and I'll use that in the model template and model in the wires and housings on those drawm positions. The wire points are probably pretty close, I dropped the points using the deck map from Melbourne as a guide.

**JensOle** · July 31st, 2013, 02:00

Quite a few repaints for the FS9 version of the Stoof, sadly most of them are for the short S2F-1 (FS9 only). The repaints for the S2F-3 will work on the FSX model.

**AndyG43** · July 31st, 2013, 02:35

I've been watching this thread with interest for some time. Lazarus would you have any objections if, when the project is completed, I (with a lot of help!!) tried to convert this for FS9 use? I've been working on shifting over Collin's lovely HMS Ocean (not forgotten Collin, real life keeps getting in the way - hope to have it sorted soon) and the Majestic-class would be the perfect accompaniment.

**Sindhu** · July 31st, 2013, 05:21

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**lazarus** · August 2nd, 2013, 14:44

Andy, I'd be honored to see the ship in the elder sim. Have at it, and if it helps to have the model in another format -other than FS9-I do not have the SDK for 9; just shout.
Thanks for the FLOLS, Essex, it works a treat, and I see what to do now to add it to the model. Bit by bit, and the interest and support from the community is of tremendous help with the nuts and bolts and morale! Thanks everyone.
S2F repaints... I think I did some sawing and sanding on the repaints to make the -1 and FS9 skins work on the G model.

Update: FLOLS works, fine tuning positions and looking for some stills of the unit to add it to the model. changes to the 'generic' island, lots of grinding on the stern to get the shape right- closer, anyways. roughed in tilly, and put together 2 tophamper models- one with a static Seaking folded up, the other with some deckapes and a mule. All of it resides in the ships folder, and is selectable from AICarriers. I've a few adjustments to make, and I am hopeful of a update this weekend for everyone.
A big celebration (mixed emotions, no doubt!) in Shearwater this week. 50 years ago this month, the CHSS-2 Seaking entered service.
30 years ago(40 if you count 10 years of studies from 1973) the CF got 'serious' about replacing the Seaking.
and, in 2005 the contract was let for S-92's (which even the most addled engineer could have told you was a bad idea! Over weight, short on puff and torque, out of growth before it got off the drafting board!) 13 years latter... no replacement in sight.
A triumph of politicized and broken procurement.

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**JensOle** · August 2nd, 2013, 23:54

Lazarus,

looking forward to the light system! Did you Get the deck texture for bonnie I sent you?
I also has a new hi res vs880 tracker repaint slowly coming along for flying from Bonaventure. 2048 textures, more details etc.

**JensOle** · August 5th, 2013, 11:06

Carrier qual for VS880 today out on the Bonaventure...

**Sindhu** · August 5th, 2013, 11:46

Very nice, Jens.

Your textures are very beautiful both plane and ship :salute:

**delta_lima** · August 5th, 2013, 12:28

Bravo - just awesome.

Back from vacation - looking forward to this in a big way!!!

DL

**lazarus** · August 5th, 2013, 13:03

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Hey all:

A gigantic thank you and BRAVO ZULU for Jens for the amazing
new flight deck texture for Bonnie,
and to Essex for figuring out how to attach a
meatball, and all the SOH crew for the encouragement
and support! With a Essex's meatball and Jens deck, its starting to look like
a halfways decent addon!

one bow cat, 4 wires, attached default smoke.
Meatball working! Jens CV-22 deck, deckpark and
impedimenta topsides. hull and island changes/poly rationalizations.
I'm reducing and remodeling the static Seaking.( Now I have to bite the bullet and
learn FSDS animation and turn that into a AI planeguard.) Not a huge FPS hit, but its still 9mb; too much for a static, but eliminating
the foofawery from the heads, hubs and gear will catch that.

The mirror landing sight is well in hand, a proper tilly, AAA battery and respotting the
meatball position for V.3, which will probably be the initial general release to hold the line until the individual ships are ready.

Off to the swimming hole with the Dogs now, I think the new beta is bug free, but I'll check back in latter.
Again; thank you all for the help and support and interest!
:salute:

**Essex** · August 5th, 2013, 15:17

Lazarus
I've only had a quick look, but it looks like excellent progress.
In case you've missed it there is an AI Seaking in the file VnW_V09.zip which I've been meaning to try. Would at least need a repaint.
Thanks again for all your work.

**JensOle** · August 6th, 2013, 02:45

Great news with the update! I have a new slightly updated deck texture as well, the only different is the curves on the deck elevator edges. Closer study revealed that it was more circular and not that oval. My latest screenshots show the new elevator shape.

It is possible to move the forward parked sea king a bit more to starboard to make space for S2F Tracker launches from the catapult?

Some thoughts for the escort vessels for HMCS Bonaventure;
-I believe the Iroquois/Tribal-class destroyers (DDG-28x) did not enter service before in the 1970's, so it should probably be replaced with another ship as Bonnie sailed her last carrier mission in 1969.
-Do any of you know if the old British Tribal-class destroyer is avilable for FSX? The Canadians had several of them post war and used them to the late 60's. It should be a nice fit for most of Bonnies time at sea.
Maybe Lazarus's converted L-class destroyers will be a good stand in?
-We have few it any post war RCN destroyer models models available for FSX, I'm currenly using a RN Type 12 Whitby and RN Type 12I Rothesay as a stand ins for the RCN St. Laurent class.

-Of course any Royal Navy destroyer or frigate from the 1950s-60s time periode can be used as plausible British participant in the carrier group. The same goes for US ships.

What do you guys think?

**Sindhu** · August 6th, 2013, 08:14

Hi,Gentlemen. Where can I get the "VEH_SH-3H_Seaking_RN"?

***aeronca1*** · August 6th, 2013, 10:13

WOW, this project keeps on getting better and better!! Thanks to all involved!!!

**Sindhu** · August 6th, 2013, 11:24

Very beautiful

Thanks Lazarus and all gentlemen who involved. :salute:

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**mikehudson** · August 6th, 2013, 23:29

British Tribal class frigates are available for FSX as "type81_tribal_class_frigates" from both avsim and flightsim. Four vessels are provided. This thread has prompted me to consider re-issuing some of my previous ships in the form they took as part of the Commonwealth Navies. This will not be just an ensign change, as the equipment and fit were often slightly different. It will require some investigation on the web. I am promising no timescales as I am currently working on the Type 41 Leopard class. Mike.

**mikehudson** · August 6th, 2013, 23:53

My apologies, please ignore the first part of my previous post. I should really know the difference between the Tribal class destroyers and the later frigates (or at least fully read the question!). The second part re conversion of my previous vessels to Commonwealth use stands. Mike.

**JensOle** · August 7th, 2013, 01:36

Mike,

Nice to see you here in the Majestic class thread! Your ships are firm favorites when it comes to bringing British and Commonwealth navies to life in FSX!

You are not the only one to have a hard time with the Tribal class ships... It turns out 3 ship classes have been using the name "tribal-class" at more or less the same time...
-British "Tribal-class" destroyer (first ship in 1937) of ww2 fame, used by the RCN until 1969.
-British "Tribal class Type 81 frigate (first ship in 1959)
-Canadian Iroquois class destroyer (first ship in 1972). This class is also called Tribal-class to make the chaos complete..

Mikes Leander class frigate can with some imagination stand in as a Canadian St. Laurent-class destroyer (as it looked after they got helihangar and deck)

Lazarus converted CFS2 British L-class destroyer actually looks quite similar to the old Tribal class destroyer when it comes to the general layout and main guns. I have painted it up with pennants numberr 219 to simulate HMCS Athabaskan (II)

**JensOle** · August 7th, 2013, 13:09

F2H-3 Banshee of VF 870 coming aboard Bonnie. Flying fastjets onto such a small carrier really is a interesting challenge. Landing on a Nimitz class carrier seems a bit boring after a landing on the Bonaventure..

**Sindhu** · August 7th, 2013, 15:41

Very interesting

**Sindhu** · August 7th, 2013, 15:43

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**JensOle** · August 8th, 2013, 00:09

Interesting film!

I guess it is the FS9 S2F-1 you are flying in the screenshot? Lets hope they remake the short Tracker into FSX standards as well, not only its bigger brother the S2F-3. To me the propeller and window issue is to big for portovers.
The S2F-1 would also have been a mcuh closer fit for the Canadian CS2F version (albeit without the top mounted radar).

The Razbam F2H Banshee is a welcome find, it is an old release, but it is holding up quite good. The model sellection is also outstanding with more or less the entire Banshee family, including the Canadian F2H-3 model with both wing tanks and sidewinders. And most important, it is very fun to take aboard the HMCS Bonaventure!

**Sindhu** · August 8th, 2013, 01:18

Yes, sir. It is the S2F1 for the FS9. I just put in the new FSX prop from the Grumman Tracker, Trader, Tracer FSX Prop Fix in the section FSX Add-Ons - FSX Other... http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...r-FSX-Prop-Fix

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So, it's worked fine in FSX. But I completely agree with you that they would make all Trackers family into the real FSX standard.