[FS2004] Freeware RAF Gutersloh - PREVIEW

**AndyG43** · October 6th, 2013, 01:09

Originally Posted by zsoltquack

It happens that some civil aircraft to be lose oneself
Disruption of this phenomenon, as it is a military base!
This is normal?

It's probably CIA Zsolt. ;-)

**Manschy** · October 6th, 2013, 02:03

Nice pics, Zsolt, as always!

No, this is a bad problem with the FS2004. Erroneously, in the default scenery, ETUO appears as a normal civil airport. THIS IS WRONG! RAF Gutersloh wasn't at all! So inside the manual, we advert to it:

(please have a look at):

4. AIRCRAFT PARKING AND FLIGHT PLANS

Note that the Harriers and Chinooks are parked at their squadron positions as
follows:

Harrier GR3, 3 Sqn HAS area to the southeast side
Harrier GR3, 4 Sqn. HAS area to the west side of the airfield
Chinook HC1, 18 Sqn Big Hangar 1 to the west side

Note that in the default version of Gutersloh, the airfield is used as a commercial
airport. Because of this, default traffic will appear from time to time.
To prevent this, you can disable the default traffic. Go to
FS9 /scenery/world/scenery and rename the file "Traffic030528.bgl" to
"Traffic030528.OFF" for example.

Hope this helps.

**assassinezzio** · October 6th, 2013, 02:05

Thank you to all involved in this project for their work, its a massive undertaking and its been pulled off in spectacular fashion :salute:

***Motormouse*** · October 6th, 2013, 03:25

Originally Posted by Manschy

Note that in the default version of Gutersloh, the airfield is used as a commercial
airport. Because of this, default traffic will appear from time to time.
To prevent this, you can disable the default traffic. Go to
FS9 /scenery/world/scenery and rename the file "Traffic030528.bgl" to
"Traffic030528.OFF" for example.

Hope this helps.

There is a slightly better way; decompile the above named traffic .bgl (Lee Swordy's traffic tools will do this)
you get three text files < Airports<Flightplans< and Aircraft

Simply use your favourite text file editor (windows notepad works) and replace any occurrences of ETUO in the flightplans.txt
file with a n other nearby airport code; recompile and you're good to go.

In this one (attached) I've sent the default AI to ETND

Attachment 94025

Note: This is a copy of my traffic bgl file, yours may be different if you've already changed it along the way.

ttfn

Pete

**Manschy** · October 6th, 2013, 04:50

Originally Posted by Motormouse

Simply use your favourite text file editor (windows notepad works) and replace any occurrences of ETOU in the flightplans.txt
file with a n other nearby airport code; recompile and you're good to go.

It's ment "ETUO", isn't it?

Thank you for suggestion, mate. This is a great option!

***Motormouse*** · October 6th, 2013, 04:53

Originally Posted by Manschy

It's ment "ETUO", isn't it?

Thank you for suggestion, mate. This is a great option!

Yes, fingers faster than brain on keyboard!!
Changed original post now

ttfn

Pete

**Butcherbird17** · October 6th, 2013, 07:04

Took a little dusk drive around the base, and got a few pics.

Thanks Pete for the tip on the default traffic. Had a few unwanted at the base in a earlier session.

Manschy, Will this scenery be done for FSX? If not can you tell me which file controls the tree's?
I have installed it in fsx and have the Alpha problem with ported fs9 objects. I tried to remove them
using IS3 (Instant Scenery) but they are still there. Funny thing is I had a few default hangers show
up, and removed them with no problem. I had already removed any afcad files before I installed to fsx.
Thanks for any help with this.

Joe

**ZsoltB** · October 6th, 2013, 09:37

Originally Posted by Motormouse

There is a slightly better way; decompile the above named traffic .bgl (Lee Swordy's traffic tools will do this)
you get three text files < Airports<Flightplans< and Aircraft

Simply use your favourite text file editor (windows notepad works) and replace any occurrences of ETUO in the flightplans.txt
file with a n other nearby airport code; recompile and you're good to go.

In this one (attached) I've sent the default AI to ETND

Attachment 94025

Note: This is a copy of my traffic bgl file, yours may be different if you've already changed it along the way.

ttfn

Pete

This is good!

Thank you my friends for help :salute: :ernae:

Zsolt

**Manschy** · October 6th, 2013, 09:53

Oh you guys let me get tears in my eyes. Great pics, thank you very much!

**EMatheson** · October 6th, 2013, 10:20

I have disabled default traffic, but I'm still getting some transients - oh well. I'm sure that rank has it's privileges for some. (I've got a civilian uncle working at a base in the US. He's a member of the flying club there. Up until the 9/11 stuff, the flying club was on base (it's off base now) - so he, as a civilian, has flown a little C172 on to the air force base on multiple occasions. I'm sure that that's probably still not impossible if you've got the right influence...)

Would it damage anything if I removed the GA parking spots from the afcad, though?

It's incredible scenery - I am really amazed by what you've been able to accomplish and still maintain a low FPS impact. This is going to be one the first things I install next time I reinstall FS...

***Motormouse*** · October 6th, 2013, 10:30

Originally Posted by EMatheson

I have disabled default traffic, but I'm still getting some transients - oh well. I'm sure that rank has it's privileges for some. (I've got a civilian uncle working at a base in the US. He's a member of the flying club there. Up until the 9/11 stuff, the flying club was on base (it's off base now) - so he, as a civilian, has flown a little C172 on to the air force base on multiple occasions. I'm sure that that's probably still not impossible if you've got the right influence...)

Would it damage anything if I removed the GA parking spots from the afcad, though?

It's incredible scenery - I am really amazed by what you've been able to accomplish and still maintain a low FPS impact. This is going to be one the first things I install next time I reinstall FS...

Have you tried this -----> http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...l=1#post840062

ttfn

Pete

**dhazelgrove** · October 6th, 2013, 11:38

We've now got a Wittering to use with John's Harriers. Available at AVSIM.

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Dave

**ZsoltB** · October 6th, 2013, 11:47

Special Guest...:salute:

**EMatheson** · October 6th, 2013, 12:13

Originally Posted by Motormouse

Have you tried this -----> http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...l=1#post840062

ttfn

Pete

I haven't. Although I HAVE disabled the default traffic, I've replaced it with as much else as I possibly can. I've got 160 megabytes of traffic files! Fully half of that is GA flight plans, so it would be, I think, a heck of a task to identify every guilty file, decompile them, and edit them. If removing GA traffic parking from the afcad would not cause a problem, that would be a much simpler fix.

***Jagdflieger*** · October 6th, 2013, 14:08

I've got the Calclassic AI pack installed in my FS 9 with the MS file disabled. So far I haven't noticed any civilian traffic using the base. This also gives you a lot of more period friendly aircraft flying about the area on their scheduled runs to and fro. I've also enjoyed seeing some NATO Starfighters visiting the base from the Owl's Nest collection of AI F-104 Starfighters.

I've had some fun flying back and forth between RAF Gutersloh and RAF Bruggen last night and this morning. I just can't say enough about how nice this new scenery and AI traffic file is.

**t.creed** · October 6th, 2013, 19:44

has the Chinook AI package been released?? nice shot above..thanks

rgds
t creed

**ZsoltB** · October 6th, 2013, 23:29

UKMIL Yeovilton

***findus*** · October 7th, 2013, 00:33

Good ol´ FS2004!!!Attachment 94050 Attachment 94049
Congratulations for your amazing and dedicated masterpiece!

**Manschy** · October 7th, 2013, 03:02

Originally Posted by dhazelgrove

We've now got a Wittering to use with John's Harriers. Available at AVSIM.

Dave

Good to know. At that time indeed Harriers of both airfields visited each other. So these jobs can go on now virtually

**ZsoltB** · October 7th, 2013, 04:17

UKMIL Rover

**ZsoltB** · October 7th, 2013, 06:06

**Wing_Z** · October 7th, 2013, 11:47

Originally Posted by dhazelgrove

There are/were offerings by Iris, and there's certainly a Harrier by UKMIL.
VTOL mods/gauges are available from Rob Barendregt, from the usual places.Dave

Didn't realise there was a UKMiL one, it also appears to be the only GR3?
Haven't seen too much of it, and I'm not a member there alas, the Iris one will have to do:

But Navtech had the right idea: with a scenery this good, really one should drive it first.
Now... on an RAF base in Germany, left or right side of the road?

You also get to peep into places you wouldn't see from the air

...and because you look official, you can park where you like!
Haven't figured what triggers this popup net yet...

A simply stunning scenery - visually of course - but also for all the possibilities it opens.

Many thanks to all you guys who made this happen.

**AndyG43** · October 7th, 2013, 12:06

Originally Posted by Wing_Z

Didn't realise there was a UKMiL one, it also appears to be the only GR3?

It is also available over at Flightsim, search for "ukmgr13.zip". It is a 50mb download, which includes the Mk 1 as well as the Mk 3, well worth getting.

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib....rchid=15782111

**Wing_Z** · October 7th, 2013, 15:11

Thanks for that, Andy - funny the flightsim search engine is usually pretty good, but no result for UKMIL + Harrier!
I also found a nice retro schene for the Iris model, painted by Zsolt.

On which topic:
Zsolt I do like your A-10's!
Are these repaints uploaded?

Originally Posted by zsoltquack

Special Guest...:salute: