Virtavia B-45

***FlameOut*** · February 25th, 2013, 15:02

Looks like some work has begun....

http://www.virtavia.com/gallery_B-45.html

***Sundog*** · February 25th, 2013, 16:48

FINALLY!!!! I've wanted one of these for so long. Now if I could also get a 1/48 scale kit from the model makers that would be even better. I don't need another model kit of a 109!!!

They had an article on this in Airpower Review I think. The author referred to it as the first stealth bomber, because nobody seems to remember it.

**tommieboy** · February 25th, 2013, 18:04

NICE........:mixedsmi:

Tommy

**Geomitrak** · February 25th, 2013, 19:52

Very nice! My first Virtavia ( as opposed to Alphasim ) purchase, I think.

***Sundog*** · March 26th, 2013, 14:55

FYI, VC pics posted there now.

**Geomitrak** · March 27th, 2013, 12:17

Thanks. I like the internal structure, but as far as the pilot's panel is concerned, I'll reassure myself for now with ' Don't worry, its WIP'. I hope it will eventually match the standards of Milviz and Razbam.

***Sundog*** · March 27th, 2013, 18:14

Originally Posted by Geomitrak

Thanks. I like the internal structure, but as far as the pilot's panel is concerned, I'll reassure myself for now with ' Don't worry, its WIP'. I hope it will eventually match the standards of Milviz and Razbam.

I doubt it will meet the others standards, but I don't mind, because I don't know anyone else that would take on a B-45.

***fsafranek*** · March 27th, 2013, 19:47

Originally Posted by Sundog

I doubt it will meet the others standards, but I don't mind, because I don't know anyone else that would take on a B-45.

Very true. The unusual subjects are what made Alphasim.
:ernae:

**Geomitrak** · March 27th, 2013, 20:58

Originally Posted by fsafranek

Very true. The unusual subjects are what made Alphasim.
:ernae:

Agreed; that aspect of Alphasim is very sorely missed. I'll get this Tornado whatever, just to show the love.

**dvj** · March 27th, 2013, 21:23

The VC looks like an FS9 portover. Not up to today's standards. The skins look excellent. But more and more the new sims are raising the bar on the VC. One has to wonder how much market there is for a B-45. A much more important aircraft, the B-58 in native FSX, is still missing.

d

**DaveQ** · March 28th, 2013, 06:40

Originally Posted by dvj

The VC looks like an FS9 portover. Not up to today's standards. The skins look excellent. But more and more the new sims are raising the bar on the VC. One has to wonder how much market there is for a B-45. A much more important aircraft, the B-58 in native FSX, is still missing.

d

I agree, Alphasim could always be relied upon to come up with interesting unusual offerings (the F-89 for instance). But the Tornado is a bit too left-field for my tastes. Last I heard, the B-58 was still being worked on, though how far it's got I don't know.

DaveQ

***hschuit*** · March 28th, 2013, 07:05

Originally Posted by DaveQ

I agree, Alphasim could always be relied upon to come up with interesting unusual offerings (the F-89 for instance). But the Tornado is a bit too left-field for my tastes. Last I heard, the B-58 was still being worked on, though how far it's got I don't know.

DaveQ

David Bushell is still working on the FSX B-58, when it is ready I guess it will be sold under his own Glowing Heat brand thru vendors like FS Pilot Shop.

**Geomitrak** · March 28th, 2013, 12:00

Originally Posted by dvj

One has to wonder how much market there is for a B-45. A much more important aircraft, the B-58 in native FSX, is still missing.

'Important' is fine, but 'unusual' and 'neglected' have their own virtues too.

**CWOJackson** · March 28th, 2013, 12:17

I've always found transitional aircraft, created during major changes in design and technology, interesting. The B-45 is a classic in that regard.

**Rubberlegs** · March 28th, 2013, 12:39

Wow!...no need to try and sell me on this one..A B-45 is a 'for sure' buy...!It's Cold War Hardware and
that's good enough for me. Now as for the following quote.....
"'Important' is fine, but 'unusual' and 'neglected' have their own virtues too".
If one wants something Important, Unusual and Neglected...what about the
Soviet YAK-28 Brewer-Firebar-Maestro Twin-Engined series to go along with
the B-45.?? Never come across a Yak-28, going all the way back to my FS95 days.
Sure would be a treat.."like extra froth on top of a dark Stout.!"

Fly High...Punch Holes in the Sky !
Walt

***icycle*** · March 28th, 2013, 13:03

Totally agree. a sure buy for me too!

The more "Cold War-era" the better. The whole RB-45 experience out of Sculthorpe, partner with RAF, pre-Aquatone (CIA U2) was always intriguing. After all, maybe, just maybe, we could see a B-52B to B-52F follow on, with a KC-135A thrown in for good measure, down the road. (grew up watching unpainted planes!)

But that is probably just a FSX-dream....

Bill

**delta_lima** · March 28th, 2013, 14:07

My take:

"Important", in the context of a hobby subject, is as futile a term as it is subjective. No one is debating this aircraft's historical or military significance. If and how the developer chooses to monetise the business case for the plane's market success is their purvue - not mine. I view the Alabeo GeeBee and Flying Stations Gull in a similar light. I'll never buy them, since they're not my personal cup of tea. But the fact that someone out there is thrilled to bits because their funny little dream plane finally got moddelled - reflects the kind of passion and curiousity that this hobby needs more of.

Personally, I don't have a single shred of personal interest in the B-45 - yet, it is just that - my personal inclination. Nevertheless, rather than rue the fact that the planes to my personal fancy are not being modelled (and it happens that one of those is the Hustler), I'm instead happy to give kudos to any developer who doesn't decide to model yet another F-18, yet another F-15, yet another Boeing airliner, or yet another Spitire, etc.

Why? Because it is from the developers of these "oddball" aircraft from whom I one day stand a chance to one day see planes I do like, even if this particular model doesn't happen to be one of them.

So bravo - bring it on, and others like it, Virtavia.

DL

PS - Walt, yes - like you, I'd be over the moon with a Yak-28R - with that honkin' big pointy glazed nose ... I certainly won't bet on it - but it's certainly on the dream list!!

**Rubberlegs** · March 28th, 2013, 14:29

ICYCLE !

..bit of a follow on....but saw a B-45 (RB-45?) once back in 1958-59 (?) parked in a very lonely spot at Ramstein AFB Germany. Actually thought it may have been a decoy or slated for Fire-fighting duties at the time as it looked so forlorn. .....had to look it up to make an I.D. Things were advancing so quickly that the B-45 had a very short production and service life. That's what made the Cold-War Era so interesting...Av-Tech was advancing so fast, no sooner get operational and it's replacement was rolling out of the factory hangers.

Fly high..Punch Holes in the Sky !
Walt

**delta_lima** · March 28th, 2013, 14:40

Paul Lashmar wrote a great book on the early Cold War recce flights from the UK:

http://www.amazon.ca/Spyflights-Cold.../dp/0750919701

Surprisingly detailed coverage of operatoins rarely discussed, likely due to the overwhelming weight of the the documentation of the U-2 and SR-71 operations that would follow. It places into perspective the reality that Cold War spy flights didn't start with Gary Powers.

DL

***icycle*** · March 29th, 2013, 11:30

B-45 is Out.

Benn flying the RB-45C version around. Seems to be without serius vices. VC is pretty basic, b ut overall have had fun with it..

Bill

**TheGrunt** · March 29th, 2013, 11:39

Originally Posted by icycle

B-45 is Out.

Benn flying the RB-45C version around. Seems to be without serius vices. VC is pretty basic, b ut overall have had fun with it..

Bill

VC is the only turn off for me based on the screenies. There sure are lot of different crew positions etc. modeled which is a huge positive, but otherwise it looks pretty "FS9" resembling their old and recently republished B-36. How are the systems?

**Bill Kestell** · March 29th, 2013, 12:24

icycle ... who's selling it? I didn't see it at two of my favorite haunts.

***Sundog*** · March 29th, 2013, 13:25

Originally Posted by Bill Kestell

icycle ... who's selling it? I didn't see it at two of my favorite haunts.

I see it at Simmarket (buying now).

***icycle*** · March 29th, 2013, 14:31

yup.

Simmarket. Not a pretty VC, but that is very secondary to me. Not a super-intense "fly it by the manual" type of aircraft. So if that is your desire, might be a letdown. I'm just enjoying touring around the UK with it...

I'm satisfied thus far.

Bill

**dvj** · March 29th, 2013, 14:50

Originally Posted by delta_lima

My take:

"Important", in the context of a hobby subject, is as futile a term as it is subjective. No one is debating this aircraft's historical or military significance. If and how the developer chooses to monetise the business case for the plane's market success is their purvue - not mine. I view the Alabeo GeeBee and Flying Stations Gull in a similar light. I'll never buy them, since they're not my personal cup of tea. But the fact that someone out there is thrilled to bits because their funny little dream plane finally got moddelled - reflects the kind of passion and curiousity that this hobby needs more of.

Personally, I don't have a single shred of personal interest in the B-45 - yet, it is just that - my personal inclination. Nevertheless, rather than rue the fact that the planes to my personal fancy are not being modelled (and it happens that one of those is the Hustler), I'm instead happy to give kudos to any developer who doesn't decide to model yet another F-18, yet another F-15, yet another Boeing airliner, or yet another Spitire, etc.

Why? Because it is from the developers of these "oddball" aircraft from whom I one day stand a chance to one day see planes I do like, even if this particular model doesn't happen to be one of them.

So bravo - bring it on, and others like it, Virtavia.

DL

PS - Walt, yes - like you, I'd be over the moon with a Yak-28R - with that honkin' big pointy glazed nose ... I certainly won't bet on it - but it's certainly on the dream list!!

Oh please, we need another 737.