Announcement from Virtavia about B-36

[Bone]

One would hope that if it were to have been re-worked for re-release the FSX model would contain features such as bump mapping, VC self-shading etc, which according to the product page it does. Not sure about 3D guages though, which many have come to expect.

Andy

When I said my guess would be that it hasn't been updated, I meant updated from what was available for FSX six years ago. I bought this model from Alphasim six years ago, and it included an FS9 model and a native FSX model. The FSX model came with a separate VC model from the exterior model, and it came with bump mapping.

The VC pics that are shown in the re-release are the same VC as what I have. They are 2D guages, and the cockpit window frame paint is the biggest give away that it hasn't been updated. The window frame paint is from a swatch texture sheet, which has no definition.

[DaveQ]

I'm going to stick my neck out here. I actually like this old girl and I very much doubt there will ever be another developer modelling the B-36 to current standards so if you want it, get it. The worst thing about it is the textures (sorry if that offends anyone here) which are really not up to much IMHO, neither are the main fuselage bump files. But there are a few repaints out there which will make it look really good, and the vc is at least workable.

Attachment 79650

Like someone on the FS2004 forum, I saw one when I guess I was about 9 years old, going over the house at about 500 feet - that was nearly 60 years ago and I can still remember what an awesome and inspiring sight it was.

DaveQ

[fxsttcb]

Not a modeler, so, I don't know, but, I'm under the impression that FSX "Native" planes have seperate exterior and interior models. Is that accurate?
If so, are there two models in the model folders? I'd think that would at least be an indication of some rework.

Just curious, my simming allotment is spoken for. At least for quite a while....Don

[Bone]

I'm going to stick my neck out here. I actually like this old girl and I very much doubt there will ever be another developer modelling the B-36 to current standards so if you want it, get it.
DaveQ

I like it too, DaveQ. That it's not up to current FSX "standards" isn't really a big deal, it's still fun, and there's still plenty of fantasy to be gotten out of it. Where did you get the paint in your screenie?

[Bone]

Not a modeler, so, I don't know, but, I'm under the impression that FSX "Native" planes have seperate exterior and interior models. Is that accurate?
If so, are there two models in the model folders? I'd think that would at least be an indication of some rework.

Just curious, my simming allotment is spoken for. At least for quite a while....Don

reference my post just prior to DaveQ's post.

[fxsttcb]

I guess I should have read beyond: "When I said my guess would be that it hasn't been updated" eh?

[Bone]

I guess I should have read beyond: "When I said my guess would be that it hasn't been updated" eh?

Lol. I'll try to be more interesting with my initial sentences.

[Roger]

Looks great from the outside!

[OleBoy]

Looks great from the outside!

As do most women when you are drunk

Whoops

[tommieboy]

I'm going to stick my neck out here...... there are a few repaints out there which will make it look really good.....

I really like this one....

Tommy

[Ian Warren]

I dug up my 36 again , dated 5/10/2007 FSXV2 18,524KB .. I install it and see/check or any difference .

[DaveQ]

I like it too, DaveQ. That it's not up to current FSX "standards" isn't really a big deal, it's still fun, and there's still plenty of fantasy to be gotten out of it. Where did you get the paint in your screenie?

It's one I did a few years ago - I reworked the paintkit and the bump files. But don't remember whether I published this one. I had a go at adding some of the fuselage stress wrinkles into the bump files this afternoon and it seems to work so might put this out. I also think Pierre Lheureux did some nice paints for this as well.

DaveQ

[Ian Warren]

OK this is what the old FS9 had to offer , course old style gauge original cockpit , works in FSX but requires grabbing bits and piece from the 2007 FSX V2 release , course below the then 3rD party painter . Very talented ... sorry forgot his name .


Now with the recent Virtavia release is different in respect to only different models - My 2007 FSX-Version 2 has only one model and the gun turret will not retract making this , what was called a 'Light Peacemaker' , i pulled my B-36 info and even found a colour photo of this very aircraft .. model No. or type ?
either
RB-36H-55 serial 52-1382 Construction No.329 AF5793 27 Ocy 52
B-36J-10 serial 52-2826 Construction No.382 as above , second last B-36 built


Conclusion , new to the aircraft , your paying for a B variant without Jets and extra paints .
:cost1:

[tommieboy]

It's one I did a few years ago - I reworked the paintkit and the bump files. But don't remember whether I published this one. I had a go at adding some of the fuselage stress wrinkles into the bump files this afternoon and it seems to work so might put this out. I also think Pierre Lheureux did some nice paints for this as well.

DaveQ

I remember the fuselage stress wrinkles; you sent me some of your work-in-progress files to look at. You also had a weather beaten version of BM-041 that had a lot of water staining effects too; not the best screen capture, but you can see some of it the image below.




Pierre Lheureux...the B-36 bullet hole paint schemes....I've got them all....

Tommy

[Bone]

OK

Now with the recent Virtavia release is different in respect to only different models - My 2007 FSX-Version 2 has only one model and the gun turret will not retract making this , what was called a 'Light Peacemaker' , i pulled my B-36 info and even found a colour photo of this very aircraft .. model No. or type ?
either
RB-36H-55 serial 52-1382 Construction No.329 AF5793 27 Ocy 52
B-36J-10 serial 52-2826 Construction No.382 as above , second last B-36 built


Conclusion , new to the aircraft , your paying for a B variant without Jets and extra paints .
:cost1:

Ian, maybe you should look again for the B variant model. My Alphasim B-36 came with two models in the package. A B-36H and a B-36B.

[Ian Warren]

Ian, maybe you should look again for the B variant model. My Alphasim B-36 came with two models in the package. A B-36H and a B-36B.

From Alphasim , file name ALPHA B-36 Peacemaker FSX v2 ... Dated 5/10/2007 18,524KB ... One model only ? what is it the date on your d/load .

EDIT : went back to my old FS9 d/load and again only one model ... don't understand that ?

[Bone]

ALPHA B-36 Peacemaker FSXv2_1

9/12/2007

[Bone]

Ian, where did you get the "circle X" and "092" paints from?

[Ian Warren]

Ian, where did you get the "circle X" and "092" paints from?

Tommy listed the name "Pierre Lheureux" from Avsim or Flightsim.com - should be easy to find under that name - , these paints are on the FS9 model but still worked in FSX , fact is never had a 'B' variant ! right from the very start .

I wonder if there was a change i missed within the 2 month release dates we have , surely not ?

[Ian Warren]

ALPHA B-36 Peacemaker FSXv2_1

9/12/2007

Arrr just noticed , you are FSXv2_1 , i missed the patch !

[modelr]

Arrr just noticed , you are FSXv2_1 , i missed the patch !

It wasn't a patch. It was a full update. FSX native, two models, exterior and interior, in the model folders, full bump mapping folders in main aircraft folder, and both models, B & H.

On top of aircraft.cfg :

// FSX ALPHASIM B-36H Peacemaker Ver 1.2 (This signifies the version 2.1 package, with the updated FSX models, v 1.2)
// DD, 13th March 08, added the -B variant
// PP, 1st Apr 08, changed C to B

[Ian Warren]

It wasn't a patch. It was a full update. FSX native, two models, exterior and interior, in the model folders, full bump mapping folders in main aircraft folder, and both models, B & H.

On top of aircraft.cfg :

// FSX ALPHASIM B-36H Peacemaker Ver 1.2 (This signifies the version 2.1 package, with the updated FSX models, v 1.2)
// DD, 13th March 08, added the -B variant
// PP, 1st Apr 08, changed C to B

Well that obviously explains why i'm missing so much , twas a patch and updated models i missed , i'll contact Virtavia and see what they can do for me , thanks for clearing that up Modelr

[Ian Warren]

There we go .. all up and running , Phil at Virtavia had a replied within a hour , great .. talk about a Peacemaker :salute:

Next Month is the North American B-45 Tornado ..

[tommieboy]

It's one I did a few years ago - I reworked the paintkit and the bump files. But don't remember whether I published this one. I had a go at adding some of the fuselage stress wrinkles into the bump files this afternoon and it seems to work so might put this out.

Dave your red tail BM-041 is still available in avsim's FSX library. Please do reload this repaint, if and when you are satisfied with the fuselage stress wrinkles. Your revised bump files are awesome; revising / creating bump files for me has always been a show stopper.

Here's the original thread; it's hard to believe it's been that many years....

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...nt-up-on-Avsim

In the thread above, there is a second link to another of your B-36 repaints that seems to be missing from Avsim's library.

Tommy

[tommieboy]

Dave Q's repaints flying in formation......