CFS2 Weapons Question

**pstrany** · November 16th, 2012, 17:32

Is there a limit to the size of a weapons BGL or the number of weapons that it can contain? Also, is there a limit to the number of payloads that can be included in a DP file?

Paul

**Typhoon Willy** · November 16th, 2012, 19:20

Hi Paul,

I can't speak of the size of the BGL, but I believe the DP allows only for 21 hardpoints.

TW

**Allen** · November 16th, 2012, 19:59

I was able to use 24 hardpoints on my G4M1 Betty at one time. The stock weapons.bgl has 31. As for payloads I never been over 10 to 12.

**Oglivie** · November 24th, 2012, 19:53

Hi Paul,

I have 22 payloads for one of my aircraft DPs (the payload limit is unknown to me).
DBolt's US weapons v2.0a has 38 weapons in the bgl (the weapon limit unknown to me also).
Max Aircraft DP hardpoints is 24 (0 thru 23). That's the max harpoints the CFS2 engine will see.

Cheers, O

**Discus** · November 26th, 2012, 02:27

I haven´t heard anything about limits in the number of payloads. What I´ve seen is 8 payloads in an DP and they work fine.

About the limit of hardpoints: If you look in Caleb Flerk´s Guide:http://www.cfgse.calebflerk.com/DP_O...e.htm#Payloads it says it´s 26.

Discus

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**Oglivie** · November 26th, 2012, 13:00

Originally Posted by Discus

I haven´t heard anything about limits in the number of payloads. What I´ve seen is 8 payloads in an DP and they work fine.

About the limit of hardpoints: If you look in Caleb Flerk´s Guide:http://www.cfgse.calebflerk.com/DP_O...e.htm#Payloads it says it´s 26.

Discus.

Hmmm...I could never get weps beyond 24 hardpoints to show. I double checked it and still can't get it.

[HARDPOINTS]
mount.0=0,0,0
mount.1=0,0,0
mount.2=0,0,0
mount.3=2.508,-0.532,0.426
mount.4=-2.508,-0.532,0.426
mount.5=0,0,0
mount.6=0,0,0
mount.7=0,0,0
; 16x Bomblets for AB250 casing (mounts 8 thru 23)
mount.8=30,0,0
mount.9=17,0,0
mount.10=-9,0,0
mount.11=-25,0,0
mount.12=-30,0,0
mount.13=-17,0,0
mount.14=-3,0,0
mount.15=6,0,0
mount.16=3,0,0
mount.17=25,0,0
mount.18=-6,0,0
mount.19=-12,0,0
mount.20=9,0,0
mount.21=12,0,0
mount.22=0,0,0
mount.23=-30,0,0
mount.24=2.508,-0.532,0.426 //locations from mount 3 for right Wgr21

[PAYLOAD.0]
; Payload = Maschine Gewehr und ETC501
mount.0=vw_190a_etc501_late_nocover_mount, 1, 0
mount.1=vw_190a_etc501_nocover_droptank1, 1, 0
mount.4=vw_190a_wgr21_left, 1, 24
mount.24=vw_190a_wgr21_right, 1, -1

***The B24 Guy*** · November 27th, 2012, 18:13

Hi All,

I am fairly sure it is 24.

Regards,
B24Guy

**pstrany** · November 28th, 2012, 21:57

Yup, 24 hardpoints (0-23) is fairly well established. What I was looking for was number of weapons in a single BGL file, and the number of payloads. So far I am up to 52 weapons in a single BGL, and 55 different payloads, and no problems that I've found (other than syntax mistakes, which can be a bear to sort out with a large file.)

Ah, fun in the virtual bomb factory......

Paul

**Discus** · November 29th, 2012, 10:08

Originally Posted by pstrany

Yup, 24 hardpoints (0-23) is fairly well established. What I was looking for was number of weapons in a single BGL file, and the number of payloads. So far I am up to 52 weapons in a single BGL, and 55 different payloads, and no problems that I've found (other than syntax mistakes, which can be a bear to sort out with a large file.)

Ah, fun in the virtual bomb factory......

Paul

¿Are you making antipersonel bomblets?

**pstrany** · November 29th, 2012, 11:03

Well, yes and no. As there is no way to simulate the dispersal of sub-munitions from a dropped container (or at least none that I can think of) I have to be satisfied making the container (such as the German AB250) and then create bomblets with no visual model to do the actual work. In the AB250 for the Fw 190 project, we used the SD10 sub-munition as our weapon of choice. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be much versatility in CFS2 weapons programming, so there isn't much point in doing some weapons, except for the visual model.

As part of the F-8 weapons package, I've created about 40 different Luftwaffe bombs (and counting!), but there is no way to simulate the difference between a SC250 (general purpose bomb, with a high blast effect and low splinter effect) and a SD250 (lower blast effect, greater splinter effect.) Likewise, there does not seem to be a way to simulate the effects of a Brand250 (phosphorous incendiary bomb) or a Flam250 (oil-filled fire bomb, a predecessor to a napalm bomb.)

I really wish there was a way to have a greater diversity in weapons, particularly in sub-munitions, as they were particularly effective in anti-personnel and anti-armor operations, and became more important in the ground support role as the war wore on.

But ya works with what ya got.....

Paul

***The B24 Guy*** · November 30th, 2012, 06:01

Hi Paul,

What about doing it with a new FX effect?

Regards,
B24Guy

**pstrany** · November 30th, 2012, 22:43

Can you attach effects to weapons? I've been pondering this, trying to figure out ways of linking other effects or other items to weapons or objects. I don't want to alter the basic installation (such as by replacing a bomb effect) as this might be bit too complicated for the typical user, but if there were a way to a way of adding special effects, that might be workable. I'd actually been thinking of including weapons as aircraft (which is the way I test my weapons before I compile them) but not sure how to include the effects I need to add, and still get the blast effect of a bomb........

Paul

P.S. Is it possible to use the same hard point for two different weapons in the same payload? Something is tickling my brain about that.....