More Dx10 News

***Roger*** · October 2nd, 2012, 09:02

Originally Posted by Skyhawk_310R

Hmmmm....

That is intriguing! Were these stock airports, Roger, or custom add-on?

I may have to take some time and dig into this Dx10 stuff.

Ken

ORBX is using their lights and Norfolk will be UTX lights as I have UTX NA and Europe installed. I'll try a default airport away from 3rd party add-ons.

Edit: this is Eldorado Intl at Bogata so this should be default. Blue taxiway lights are there too.

**pilottj** · October 2nd, 2012, 09:53

Originally Posted by Dimus

Thank you Roger for all your posts regarding DX10. I have given up on it long ago and after I fine tuned my setup for DX9 using Nick Needam's guide. There are two things keeping me from trying it out again. One is the ENB mod and the other is the FSWC. ENB might have other alternatives but I will certainly wait for the FSWC+ that supports DX10 to come up as I just love those water themes.

I will bookmark these threads and the avsim ones for that time.

Edit: Looking at Paul Wheeler's forum, it seems that FSWC will not work with the shader 3 hack, so I guess there is no reason to wait. I might give it a try and if I don't like it , I can just get back to DX9.

FSWC Lite has a DX10 water setting that is nice for the time being until FSWC+ is released.
http://www.strikingsoftware.com/downloads.shtml

That is a solution for milky water at night and improved day water.

Cheers
TJ

**pilottj** · October 2nd, 2012, 10:11

Here is a couple of water shots day/night(with moonlight) near KORS using FSWC Lite DX10 water shaders. Water effects set at Mid 2.x

Cheers
TJ

***Roger*** · October 2nd, 2012, 13:08

Originally Posted by bushpilot

New version of DX10 patch was uploaded to avsim yesterday

Category: Flight Simulator X - Miscellaneous Files
New! DX10 Shader Fixes V3.1.0

File Description:
DX10 Shader Fixes V3.1.0, replaces v3.0.0 - These are a set of shader fixes for DX10 Preview mode in FSX. The patch should not effect DX9 in any way. It addresses the following bugs in the DX10 preview:

1) Flashing runways/taxiways
2) Yellow/white runway markings transparency
3) Opaque chain fences
4) Progressive Taxi markings missing
5) Missing night scenery/semi-transparent dusk scenery (often misdescribed as missing night textures)
6) Some addon cars with black headlights
7) Softer VC shadow
8) Eliminates false sun on VC roof and side wall

Filename:	shader_release_v3.1.0.zip
License:	Freeware, limited distribution
Added:	1st October 2012, 18:16:11
Downloads:	6347
Author:	Steve Parsons
Size:	410kb

Evidently Steve uploaded the file with some errors and there is now a 3.1.1 file uploaded to Avsim's library.

**Skyhawk_310R** · October 2nd, 2012, 14:27

Most cool!

Thanks,

Ken

**Mach3DS** · October 2nd, 2012, 20:08

Originally Posted by Roger

One of the issues still remaining for Dx10 users after Steve Parsons new Dx10 shaders, is the external lights issue which means the nav lights are often missing or only viewable from certain limited angles. The Shockwave lights tend to work fairly well but Steve Parsons has developed a fix. This involves creating a new fx file and editing the aircraft.cfg. I've tried this fix on the Aerosoft Catalina and Rob Cappers Dc2X. Before and after shots below. The Avsim thread with instructions here: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/377635-...erimental-fix/

Thank you! I'm not sure how I've managed to go this long without any knowledge of Nvidia Inspector, but it has completely changed my experience on my quite dated rig! So much smoother! Thank you for sharing!

**bushpilot** · October 3rd, 2012, 04:52

Does anyone know how to externally limit your FPS in DX10 mode? The old FPS_Limiter_0.2 does not work in DX10 mode.

***Roger*** · October 3rd, 2012, 05:02

Originally Posted by bushpilot

Does anyone know how to externally limit your FPS in DX10 mode? The old FPS_Limiter_0.2 does not work in DX10 mode.

It's best to use the internal limiter, then use Nvidia Inspector's Vertical Sync at half monitor rate. I believe it's less heavy on hardware than the alternative cfg entry.

**bushpilot** · October 3rd, 2012, 05:12

I've always had best performance by setting unlimited FPS internally and capping the FPS externally. Less micro stutters and fluctuation, at least on my system.

Just did a bit of googling, seems that Nvidia has a hidden limiter build in their drivers, can be enabled by a tweaked Nvidia Inspectror: http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index...howtopic=47061

Gonna give it a try

**bushpilot** · October 3rd, 2012, 05:28

Seems to be working, I get steady 30fps at ORBX Israels Farm with max scenery settings in DX10 yay!

The above link also mentions that the driver level limiter should be less straining to your hardware, compared to vsync

I think this is good, and I'm officially DX10-only now

***Dimus*** · October 3rd, 2012, 06:31

Thank you pilottj! I have seen that but I was not sure if it works with the new shader hacks that correct all the other issues (flashing taxiways etc.) Are your shots taken using this hack? If so, I will certainly try FSWC lite.

To bushpilot: Did you manage to replace the ENB effects with anything else? With both these issues sorted DX10 would be a no brainer for me.

To Roger: Is it possible to apply high degree of AF through nvidia inspector with DX10? It helps with the shimmering of trees over forests.

Finally, would it be a good idea to also transfer this thread to the tweaks like the other one for easy reference?

**pilottj** · October 3rd, 2012, 07:12

Hey Dimus,
I have FSX Gold, running moderate-full settings, as for graphic mods have the latest REX Essentials, FS Shade, FSWC Lite. My vid card is a Nvidia GTX480. I am not over clocking, I don't have ENB, not using Nvidia enhancer, I just used Steve's DX10 fixes and fixes suggested here in Roger's DX10 thread. Pretty much all of my DX10 issues have been solved, including flickering taxiways, rain issues, aircraft lights for the most part, enough to make me use it on a regular basis...before I could only use it in certain situations for a nice screenshot or two. I think FSWC Lite should work fine. I have the regular FSWC installed too. I installed Lite, loaded the DX10 shader. You may have to navigate to the shaders cache folder mentioned in the rain fix and delete cached texture files there for the FSWC Lite textures to show up.

Hope it all works out for you

CHeers
TJ

**bushpilot** · October 3rd, 2012, 07:32

Originally Posted by Dimus

To bushpilot: Did you manage to replace the ENB effects with anything else? With both these issues sorted DX10 would be a no brainer for me.

I'm afraid not. It's a shame, because I have good looking enb setting going on, which I managed to tweak for my liking from REX Natural Enb Plus package. I have currently FXAA Injector under inspection, it's working in a sense that it is doing something to my image. Now I have to figure out how to make it to do what I want it to do...

**IanHenry** · October 3rd, 2012, 07:35

One problem that I have with DX10 is that I don't get any smoke effects, does anyone know a fix for that?

Regards,
Ian.

**kilo delta** · October 3rd, 2012, 08:07

I'd love to move to a stable DX10 install...but that'd mean losing all my MAIW/WOAI traffic......and I'd get lonely on my own!

***Roger*** · October 3rd, 2012, 10:56

Add-on Converter X?

**kilo delta** · October 3rd, 2012, 11:12

Originally Posted by Roger

Add-on Converter X?

Something I've never tried,Roger. How does it cope with portover AI, and more importantly, does it hit the FPS?

**letourn** · October 3rd, 2012, 13:16

Addon converter X convert all my MAIW traffic AI.

I also lost a lots of smoke effects on DX10

***Roger*** · October 3rd, 2012, 13:24

The important thing with add-on converter x is to point it where you want it. So if it's only AI traffic you want to convert, uncheck everything else. I found some ORBX water scenery tiles were odd but it's not a problem because the converter changes nothing in FsX so you can uninstall it and then start over afresh.

***Roger*** · October 3rd, 2012, 13:28

Originally Posted by kilo delta

Something I've never tried,Roger. How does it cope with portover AI, and more importantly, does it hit the FPS?

I noticed an impact on frame rates when I had it convert all my scenery but I think it depends how many objects you aim it at. Keep it to the minimum and the frame rate hit should be minimal.

**kilo delta** · October 3rd, 2012, 13:50

Thanks,guys :salute:. I may give it a try. I'm not concerned about converting any scenery, just AI (but there's a looooooooooooooooooooot of it at this stage*)

*just checked...15GB+ of AI alone!

**bushpilot** · October 3rd, 2012, 23:01

Originally Posted by IanHenry

One problem that I have with DX10 is that I don't get any smoke effects, does anyone know a fix for that?

Regards,
Ian.

I noticed this too, some smoke effects are visible only partly...

**Dave Torkington** · October 4th, 2012, 06:31

There's clearly been real progress with workarounds to the DX10 anomalies that FSX throws up...

I especially like the Nvidea Inspector tweak that lmits FRPS externally - thank you Bushpilot!

I was of the opinion that switching to DX10 just opens a can of worms, but as this thread is progressing I'm getting the felling that there's some light at the end of the tunnel for DX10 and FSX - am I right?

If so, wouldn't it be a dream to have one FSX -> DX10 tweaking tool? Am I dreaming or is it within the realms of a developer?

At the very least, it'd be superb to have a central source of DX10 tweaking information.

Thanks, Dave. :salute:

***Roger*** · October 4th, 2012, 09:57

Hi Dave,
Avsim have a Dx10 forum with useful advice. http://forum.avsim.net/forum/569-dx-...ints-and-help/

**Dave Torkington** · October 4th, 2012, 10:22

Thanks very much Roger,

The .doc made by Paul J http://forum.avsim.net/topic/384221-...o-go-dx10-doc/ looks like a good place to start...

Disprin Direct on standby :isadizzy: