2012 Cape to Cape Questions

[Willy]

If you have any questions about the Cape to Cape event that weren't covered in the FAQ, feel free to ask them here. We aim to make this an enjoyable event.

[arrvoo]

Hi guys. Great event really looking forward to it.
I'd like a clarification on the Cotes d'Ivoire.
One of the West African Airports (Golden Age Fuel Stops) is DIAP – Abidjan and Bingerville, Côte d'Ivoire [France]
Yet a little further on in the "Special Features for 2012" it states

The ongoing violence stemming from the 11-year civil war in Côte d'Ivoire puts that country out of the race.

Am i missing something here or is this an anomaly? Can we land at DIAP and refuel?

Thanks in advance

Harv

[Willy]

In Golden Age aircraft which is set in 1938, yes. In Modern GA which is today, no.

Hope this helps.

[arrvoo]

Thanks Willy

[salt_air]

Help me rinse my brain ....


Does Flight time + Bonus time - Penalty time = Race time as used to measure against Reference time at the end of the race?

[Moses03]

Flight time only.

[jt_dub]

Confirmation of Reference Time for Flight-1 PC-12 requested.

The tracking workbook shows reference time of: 33:12:00

The Cape to Cape rules list the reference time as:

Pilatus PC-12 (FS9 & FSX?)

Flight One

35.1

[salt_air]

Confirmation of Reference Time for Flight-1 PC-12 requested.

The tracking workbook shows reference time of: 33:12:00

The Cape to Cape rules list the reference time as:

Pilatus PC-12 (FS9 & FSX?)

Flight One

35.1

Yeah Jeff .... same question ... different Bird.


Lockheed Vega 56.1 [Rules] vs 52.36 [Worksheet]

[PRB]

I'll check these when I get home today. I got the reference times from our "work in progress" data sheet, and not the final rules release, so that may be the issue. Or I just screwed up...

[Craig Taylor]

Ditto on the MAAM-Sim Gooney Bird, please. Thanks for doing the tracker! :salute:

[Moses03]

Does Flight time + Bonus time - Penalty time = Race time as used to measure against Reference time at the end of the race?

Just got a scolding from Miss Nellie. This is what she told me:

"The Reference Race is meant to be scored as Race Time minus Reference Time. Penalties and bonuses do count. In Modern Era, we did switch to Flight Time minus Declared Time for the Precision Race"

[salt_air]

Thanks Moses! ... I've been spending way too much time in front of Miss Nellie.


Time to get out of the limelight for a while .... :

[PRB]

Dang, I got most of the reference times wrong, including mine. Looks like I picked a bad week to quit sniffing glue... I think they're ok now. Do you like gladiator movies?

[Craig Taylor]

Dang, I got most of the reference times wrong, including mine. Looks like I picked a bad week to quit sniffing glue... I think they're ok now. Do you like gladiator movies?

ROFL! :ernae:

[jt_dub]

Looks good to me.

At least if I am comput'nm them numbers wrong, then you're comput'nm wrong exactly the same way.

[salt_air]

Is an e6b legal to use in the Dead Reckoning sections of these routes to Cape Horn?

[PRB]

Absolutely. I use one of those to gonculate drift angle steering.

[salt_air]

Just to make sure I am clear on Landings at .... Unprepared Airports and Temporary Landings.

For anyone else that is reading besides the committee ... This review is specific to the trek across the Sahara in the Golden Age and doesn't cover or recap all aspects of landing at airports that are not on the approved list.




An Uncertainty Cost is levied on landings at airports not on the Prepared Airport list ....... one hour. (Golden Age in Africa)

If you refuel after landing at an Unprepared Airport, then you are blessed a penalty of ... five hours (instead of the one hour penalty and not added to the one hour penalty).





Temporary Landings are basically to ask directions .... and may or may not be done at an airport ... could be a wide spot in the road or a farmer's field.

No penalty incurred as long as the duenna is left running during the landing and subsequent take off to get back on course ... except for lost (flight) time on the ground.





Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance and Peter Piper Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers .... Paul.

[Moses03]

Temporary Landings are basically to ask directions .... and may or may not be done at an airport ... could be a wide spot in the road or a farmer's field.

No penalty incurred as long as the duenna is left running during the landing and subsequent take off to get back on course ... except for lost (flight) time on the ground.

You are correct Austin. No penalty, just loss of time and the possibility of hitting a gopher hole bringing your aeroplane to grief. You are lucky I didn't cable Miss Nellie on this!

[salt_air]

You are correct Austin. No penalty, just loss of time and the possibility of hitting a gopher hole bringing your aeroplane to grief. You are lucky I didn't cable Miss Nellie on this!

Thanks Kevin ... getting set up for a bigg'un and wanted to be sure.

Ahem - cough - hack .... yeah Miss Nellie's prolly busy havin' fun on her day off ... no need to bother her ...

[CavalierDuck]

In version 0.90 of the rules there was mention of a competitive precision flight in both the modern and golden age events. But I couldn't find this in the final version of the rules. Please could Ms Munroe or Ms Nellie please confirm that this has been dropped?

[Willy]

It was dropped for the Golden Age.

From Page 13:

The Precision Race. (Modern Era)
In the Precision Race, the pilot declares his target Flight Time en route. The precision score is the absolute difference between the declared and the actual flight time cumulated over the entire race: the lowest score wins. The pilot must make his final declaration of his total flight time in hours, minutes, and seconds, before he departs from Kinshasa, Congo (FZAB). Sandbagging is unsporting—egregious cases will be subject to disquali-fication on the decision of the Race Administrators. The Precision Race is conducted only in the Modern Era.

From the way I read the rules, you don't have to participate in the Precision part, but it don't cost anything to make a guess. However as always, Miss Murphy might decided different. I doubt I'll even come close, but figure to give it a shot when I do my Modern Era run.

[CavalierDuck]

I didn't mean that one, I was referring to v0.90 of the rules, page 15:

The Precision Flight
Near the completion of the race, pilots will have an opportunity to conduct a competitive Preci-sion Flight. Before departure, each pilot declares the exact Target Flight Time that he will use in reaching his destination. The pilot might complete this segment in a single leg, or the pilot might take multiple legs (in which case the segment's Flight Time is the sum of the legs' Flight Times).
The "deviation" is scored as the absolute value of the difference between his actual Flight Time and his previously declared Target Flight Time—measured in seconds. The winner is the pilot with the minimum deviation.
For example, a pilot states his Target Flight Time is 2:05:00 (two hours and five minutes) and he actually flies the distance in 2:08:30 (two hours eight minutes and 30 seconds). Then his score is 210 seconds. Or he might fly it in 1:58:00 and get a score of 420 seconds. The lowest score wins.
The location of the Precision Flight varies for the two classes:
Golden Age Precision Flight:
FAKM-FAYP – Kimberly-Cape Town, 443nm or (at the pilot's option) FAGM-FAYP –Johannesburg- Cape Town, 678nm
Modern Era Precision Flight:
ENVA-ENHV – Trondheim-Honningsvåg, 569nm

I read this as being completely separate from the Precision Race when pilots declare their expected time for the whole event. But I couldn't find it in the final version of the rules.

[Willy]

v.090 was a draft of the final rules and doesn't apply. It was only released as a sneak peek as to what we were up to as we were still wrestling with some issues and needed to get something out.

There were several changes in the Final that weren't in v0.90. The Precision race was part of those changes.

Here is v1.00, the Final release which is what everyone should be going by.

[salt_air]

Not for the sake of any argument, but hopefully to do some down-field blocking on questions later as folks get closer ....


Page 7 in the current version of the rules v1.00 ... as per link in Willy's post reads:

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Precision Flight in the Golden Age
Near the completion of the Golden Age race, pilots will have an opportunity to conduct a compet-itive Precision Flight. Before departure, each pilot declares the exact Target Flight Time that he will use in reaching his destination. The pilot might complete this segment in a single leg, or the pilot might take multiple legs (in which case the segment's Flight Time is the sum of the legs' Flight Times).
The "deviation" is scored as the absolute value of the difference between his actual Flight Time and his previously declared Target Flight Time—measured in seconds. The winner is the pilot with the minimum deviation.
For example, a pilot states his Target Flight Time is 2:05:00 (two hours and five minutes) and he actually flies the distance in 2:08:30 (two hours eight minutes and 30 seconds). Then his score is 210 seconds. Or he might fly it in 1:58:00 and get a score of 420 seconds. The lowest score wins.
The pilot may choose from two options the location of his Precision Flight:
FAKM-FAYP – Kimberly-Cape Town, 443nm
or (at the pilot's option)
FAGM-FAYP – Johannesburg-Cape Town, 678nm
The Precision Flight is a stand-alone contest that does not affect the outcome of the Speed Race or the Reference Race. Other than the fact that pilots must (nearly) finish the race course to reach the starting airport of the Precision Flight, the contests are not related. (There is no Precision Flight in the Modern Era.)