What does FSX and Yahoo have in common?

[Lionheart]

What does FSX and Yahoo have in common?

With the help of TileProxy..............



This.....!

[Marlin]

Huh? Who what how where and when?????

Holy crap what a difference.:isadizzy:

[Lionheart]

You can find out more on it here;

http://edtruthan.com/tileproxy/tutorial/

http://edtruthan.com/tileproxy/manual.htm

http://edtruthan.com/tileproxy

Download the main file, download the INI sets, then install them. Read through the ReadMe.

Then install the INI, start up TileProxy, and start up your fave sim, and you are good to go.

:d


Installation, about 10 min's, mainly because I was reading on it.

Takes a while for it to download/convert/install the bitmaps from JPG's as you are flying, but once you fly an area, its saved to its own Cache.. Very nice... then next time its faster.


MY thanks to SrGalahad for the heads up on this awesome bit of revolutionary software. I am now inlove with FSX...


Bill

[Lionheart]

OOOOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I forgot to mention..


Its freeware.


:d

[Marlin]

Ahhh, very cool and thanks for the link. I WILL check that out.

I have a slow dsl line, would that be a huge drawback? Can you out fly the terrain in lets say, the default Beech twin?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>

[MCDesigns]

very nice, love the 3rd comparison airport. One question, are all the files temp or can you add autogen to them?

[Lionheart]

Hey Marlin,


Yes, you can outfly the scenery. I did, but realise that its storing it on the first run, so when you get time, do a slow flight in a Cessna 172 with AP on, about 75% power, and as you fly along, you are mapping the area.

Then, next time you fly, its mapped already, no downloading.

Have to have the system on though for it to use the cached scenery it has already installed.


This also works in FS9 but isnt as sharp, and it doesnt function at night. Daytime only.

Note, I modified that link.


Bill

[Lionheart]

very nice, love the 3rd comparison airport. One question, are all the files temp or can you add autogen to them?

I would like to know this myself. You should be able to grab the cached tiles and use them as templates for your own work, and add the scenery to them as well.

The cached scenery is stored in huge numbers of file folders that the program auto-generates as its downloading and converting the scenery. The ingenious bit of programming downloads huge JPG's, converts them to FS scenery bitmap format, and installed 'as you are flying' along... lol.. amazing technology.

When you decide you dont want it anymore, or wish to see if there are aerial view updates, simply click the 'Clear Terrain Cache' icon and all scenery is cleared...




Bill

[Marlin]

Thank you
:ernae:

[CodyValkyrie]

Looks good! This would be good for an airliner, where the autogen is less of a factor.

[Lionheart]

Here is Durango Colorado.....

I had never seen Durango from the air. Its one of my fave locations to go to. I had never known that the mountains were plates, upturned, like in Globe Arizona.


This program is revolutionary... If FS11 looks like this, I would buy a dozen copies...


I remember when I first got FS2004. I spent days just flying up and down teh canyons of Alaska, checking out the detailed mountain textures and misty weather...

This is just amazing...!

[Lionheart]

I am setting here thinking how cool this is, and wondering why or how Aces could have photo scenery on FS.

And it hit me, why couldnt Aces make a deal with the group(s) that provide aerial scenery to Yahoo, Google, and all the others (there are about 5 major groups that use this), and put this in FS.

And then............ it hit me... Why not come out with an upgrade for FSX called "FSX Planet"


Think about it.... Almsot the entire world, mapped... All in FSX... An upgrade of upgrades...

Remember, a high detail scenery package addon has been done before by X-Plane. 8 DVD's. Why not in FSX?


Bill

[simkid22]

Now if only there was a program that can take the images and maybe guess where to put in autogen but being able to make out my house and my grandfather's is really cool! The one thing i noticed is that the autogen settings i was previously using was killing my machine. I'm getting double the frames. To autogen or not to autogen

[kilo delta]

Thanks for the HU, Bill:ernae:. Only reservation that i'd have using this software is the following recommendation... "Before starting anything you should disable your virus software and any active firewalls. I can't emphasize this enough. These often stop tiles from loading for many users"

I've had several phonecalls in the last week alone with people having their PC's infected with the XPAntivirus2008 bug and on a PC that I fixed yesterday I found 3,500 virii :costumes:!!!
Another option (one that i'm trying out at the moment) is creating your own Photoscenery using the Maps2bgl freeware program in association with Google Earth. This program will "grab" the google image tiles and create the photo scenery bgls. Only downside to this is that you cannot legally share your created scenery (Google image tiles can be downloaded for personal use only) and the created scenery can be rather large...though this isn't an issue if you've a relatively large HDD.bgl.

[hey_moe]

I haven't DL it yet but what does the low flying look like?

[Marlin]

Bill, you flew right over my dentists office, see it right over there next to the river?

cool dude!

[harleyman]

This guy is always on Avism talking this Tile Proxy up......

Although it has some nice effects,for my eyes its not very real looking ....I am just not in love with the colors......I've been in the air and never saw the ground look like that.......Its just my stupid opinion..I told him the same...

My sim is struggeling enough at the moment..I dare not ask more of it till it feels better about itself.....

I think it needs a head doctor to puzzle out its problems....LOL:costumes:


But there are lots that use it and swear by it...I don't really know why I feel the way I do.....:isadizzy:

[MHAircraft]

"Before starting anything you should disable your virus software and any active firewalls. I can't emphasize this enough. These often stop tiles from loading for many users"

First words that came to my mind ... PRACTICE SAFE SEX!!!

[Bjoern]

First words that came to my mind ... PRACTICE SAFE SEX!!!

I think a router firewall will protect you just fine.



And commenting Tileproxy: No autogenos, no vuelos. :d

[Navy Chief]

I installed and gave Tile Proxy a try with FSX last week. It took almost an hour to load it the first time. The scenery it generated was quite beautiful! I did notice, however, one glaring problem. The satellite image for the airport I flew out of, 1A3 Martin Campbell Airport, Copperhill, TN was superimposed over the default FSX. That in itself wouldn't have been a problem, but the runway in the satellite photo is about 10 ft adjacent to the one in FSX.

NC

[Lionheart]

Hey guys,

Thanks for the HU, Bill:ernae:. Only reservation that i'd have using this software is the following recommendation... "Before starting anything you should disable your virus software and any active firewalls. I can't emphasize this enough. These often stop tiles from loading for many users"


Kilo Delta

I didnt disable firewalls or protections, so I dont know.

It took almost an hour to load it the first time.

Navy Chief

I have high speed cable internet, about the fastest, so I was able to have a faster download speed. Remember that terrain that is downloaded the first time is put in Cache. Thus the next time, it should display very quickly compared with the first time. Its pretty much like GoogleEarth. If you can roam through GoogleEarth at good speed, this will be similar. Just keep in mind that this is doing a ton of work, changing JPG's into Bitmaps, placing them in FS 'as you are flying'.

I think a router firewall will protect you just fine.

Bjoern

I also have a Router, which has probably saved me a few times, but I realise others dont, but I must say, I didnt turn anything off.. I installed it, fired it up, and off I went. No fixing of files, etc. There is a second download, 2 INI files, one for FS9, one for FSX. I installed the one I was going to fly (dropped it in the main TileProxy folder in FSX) and I was off flying in real world scenery.

And commenting Tileproxy: No autogenos, no vuelos. :d

Bjoern

I am an AutoGen FREAK! (I went years without AutoGen in FS2004, and when I finally got it and maximum settings as well, I swore I would never do without it again).

But, I must say that with AutoGen on in FSX with TileProxy running, I couldnt find AutoGen objects, lol.. The photo real terrain seems to cover them or mask them.


Slow for Some...
I think that this will be overly slow for people with slow download time and older computers. You will need to do 'first runs' to gather the Cached bitmaps, then you can run normal flights afterwards.

Reload Time and Fuzzies....
I had to wait perhaps 5 min's at times to reload scenery. This is just like Mega-Scenery packages. Once the terrain goes fuzzy (from going to spot-plane and back into VC views), you will have to wait a bit for the fuzzies to clear up. If you hit Refresh Scenery, its at least 5 min's. But the wait for me was worth it. This makes FSX worth it for me.

Black Tiles and Errors....
I found some black tile zones in Germany last night. Some sections were missing, etc. I have purchased and downloaded alot of payware and freeware German scenery though, so it is surely something to do with those.

Low Resolution zones....
If you have been on Google Earth before, you will have seen the area's that are 'not' high resolution. The green will look horrible, etc. That is something that just isnt available yet. The surrounding area' of Innsbruck is like this, unfortunately, so you just have to use this for area's that 'do' have high resolution.



I hope the info helps. I am pretty impressed. I flew through the mountains of Southern Colorado last night, and somehow let several hours escape as I was mesmerized by the shear beauty of the mountains, trails, forests, small towns, etc. The ability of FSX to run these textures was incredible. I also flew over the deserts of the Four Corners (Colorado/Utah/Arizona border) and just the desert is pretty darn awesome.


Main drawback is fuzzies and reload of scenery time involved. But if you pause your plane for a bit, the scenery re-sharpens....

I wish there was a way to have resolutions work better so that fuzzies didnt take so long to go away..



Bill

[Lionheart]

Does anyone know how to delete 'select' zones of tiles?

I loaded FS9 and flew over the Islands around Cape Cod. The graphics are very low quality and I wish to check them out in high rez with FSX but it appears Cache stays loaded and selecting them in Map and clicking Delete Tiles may delete 'all' tiles.. I dont want to mess up Colorado and Arizona.



Bill

[stiz]

just rember, not all the satalite imageary of the world is at the crispness of the more populated areas, US, UK, France etc

[Bomber_12th]

Thank you for the information on this Lionheart! Until now I suspected that it would be a tough program to install, but it was really quite simple. After having dreamed of somebody like Megascenery doing a photoscenery release for my neck of the woods, it almost seems surreal to be flying over high quality photoscenery of my city and surroundings, and I can actually look down and spot my house and even my car! Fortunately the airports that I have flown from so-far are really almost dead on with the photo-scenery, with the exception of some taxiways here and there. I spent my lunch break flying around my home, and then later this evening around <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on">Cambridge</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region> and <st1lace w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Aspen</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Colorado</st1:State></st1lace>. It will be fun to continue 'exploring' the world, now with complete photo-coverage - I also had some fun flying around the coast of <st1lace w:st="on">Greenland</st1lace>, and there is nothing quite like it. I have noticed that the more times you load up a flight in a specific zone, it not only goes faster but the scenery ends up looking better.

[Lionheart]

Hey Bomber,


Roger that. I too was afraid it would be a bit difficult. With them supplying preset INI files, its quick and done.

I freaked on the mountains in Colorado. Totally breathtaking man.. I flew the little Bucker Jungmann from Durango, east through the mountains till I got to the plains on the other side. Spotted lots of probable mines in the mountains, cool trails, little towns..

I'll have to check out England.


I have found a glitch. If you fly in FS9 mode, you keep the FS9 lower resolution tiles in the Cache, which 'is' reused. Thus, when you fly in FSX, the same zone is horrible in resolution. I am trying to find a way to delete certain zones without deleting all zones. I am also trying to find a way to save zones to seperate files (which they warn you not to do) but if I copy them, I might be ok, then place to Addon Scenery, and activate, then delete all the others, reset, and have 2 versions.. One for FS9 and one for FSX.

Thats the plan, anyways...


I checked out all of Catalina Island off the coast of LA today. Nice... :d



Bill